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Attributes | |
ACN | 909415 |
Time | |
Date | 201009 |
Local Time Of Day | 1201-1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | FFZ.Airport |
State Reference | AZ |
Environment | |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | Super King Air 200 |
Flight Phase | Initial Climb |
Route In Use | Other MESA1 ODP |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | A320 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | Climb |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Function | Local |
Qualification | Air Traffic Control Fully Certified |
Person 2 | |
Function | Departure |
Qualification | Air Traffic Control Fully Certified |
Events | |
Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types Deviation - Procedural Clearance Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy |
Narrative:
I cleared an IFR departure for takeoff. The aircraft was cleared by ground control to depart via the MESA1 departure procedure. I did not restrict the aircraft to make only a right turn. The aircraft made a left turn. I noticed it along with the supervisor and ground controller. The supervisor coordinated with local 2 to get approval for that aircraft to be in his airspace and the ground controller called the approach control and informed them that the aircraft had made a left turn instead of a right turn. After all involved positions had been informed; I shipped the aircraft to departure. I said nothing to the aircraft about him making a left turn instead of a right turn. This is a new departure procedure and when briefed on it we were told the aircraft would make a right turn. We brought it to attention that we believe the wording of the procedure actually authorizes an aircraft to turn left or right. In response to this; I believe a change was made to the LOA with the approach control that requires us to say 'right turn approved'. I forgot to say that. However; in retrospect; 1) how does that statement; which is not a command to turn right; guarantee the aircraft will turn right? 2) with the previous departure procedure we were told we could not issue any instructions to an aircraft on a departure procedure that would interfere with him flying the departure procedure at the pilot's discretion. Doesn't forcing a right turn take away the pilots discretion of how he wants to fly the procedure? Recommendation; I will remember to say 'right turn approved' when I clear an IFR departure for takeoff. But if the aircraft still wants a left turn; as is his option on the departure procedure; then I don't know what needs to be done to ensure the right turn short of re-writing the departure procedure.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FFZ and P50 Controllers described an Operational Deviation when an IFR departure failed to make a right turn and was in conflict with a PHX departure; the reporter noting the procedure is less than clear as published and needs additional clarification.
Narrative: I cleared an IFR departure for takeoff. The aircraft was cleared by Ground Control to depart via the MESA1 departure procedure. I did not restrict the aircraft to make only a right turn. The aircraft made a left turn. I noticed it along with the Supervisor and Ground Controller. The Supervisor coordinated with Local 2 to get approval for that aircraft to be in his airspace and the Ground Controller called the Approach Control and informed them that the aircraft had made a left turn instead of a right turn. After all involved positions had been informed; I shipped the aircraft to Departure. I said nothing to the aircraft about him making a left turn instead of a right turn. This is a new departure procedure and when briefed on it we were told the aircraft would make a right turn. We brought it to attention that we believe the wording of the procedure actually authorizes an aircraft to turn left or right. In response to this; I believe a change was made to the LOA with the Approach Control that requires us to say 'right turn approved'. I forgot to say that. However; in retrospect; 1) how does that statement; which is not a command to turn right; guarantee the aircraft will turn right? 2) With the previous departure procedure we were told we could NOT issue any instructions to an aircraft on a departure procedure that would interfere with him flying the departure procedure at the pilot's discretion. Doesn't forcing a right turn take away the pilots discretion of how he wants to fly the procedure? Recommendation; I will remember to say 'right turn approved' when I clear an IFR departure for takeoff. But if the aircraft still wants a left turn; as is his option on the departure procedure; then I don't know what needs to be done to ensure the right turn short of re-writing the departure procedure.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of April 2012 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.