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Attributes | |
ACN | 917455 |
Time | |
Date | 201011 |
Local Time Of Day | 1201-1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | CLT.Airport |
State Reference | NC |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Function | Approach |
Events | |
Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types Conflict Airborne Conflict Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy |
Narrative:
North operation; clt main radar went out and we were using maiden radar for separation. From approximately 10 NM south and out; separation was 5 NM; rather than 3. I was initially told I needed 5 NM between aircraft on the same runway unless they had each other in sight (visual) and were told to follow each other visually. A few minutes later; I was told that they only needed to have the airport in sight to diminish the separation between successive aircraft to less than 5 NM. Then; I was told that was incorrect and I needed 5 NM unless they had each other in sight and were following each other visually. Downwind traffic was descending to 6;000' and as aircraft was turned to join final; also at 6;000'; separation may have decreased to less than 5 NM as they passed. The arrival west controller took most aircraft off the RNAV; which resulted in the aircraft drifting closer to the final. Recommendation; ensure that everyone is on the same page with the procedure. There has not been adequate training and/or guidance on what the requirements are when radar goes out; other than 5 miles. There should be conclusive; unambiguous direction given by the controller in charge/flm when we go into a nonstandard configuration.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CLT Controller described an event when the required separation standard was uncertain during the use of a non-standard RADAR system.
Narrative: North operation; CLT main RADAR went out and we were using Maiden RADAR for separation. From approximately 10 NM south and out; separation was 5 NM; rather than 3. I was initially told I needed 5 NM between aircraft on the same runway unless they had each other in sight (visual) and were told to follow each other visually. A few minutes later; I was told that they only needed to have the airport in sight to diminish the separation between successive aircraft to less than 5 NM. Then; I was told that was incorrect and I needed 5 NM unless they had each other in sight and were following each other visually. Downwind traffic was descending to 6;000' and as aircraft was turned to join final; also at 6;000'; separation may have decreased to less than 5 NM as they passed. The Arrival West Controller took most aircraft off the RNAV; which resulted in the aircraft drifting closer to the final. Recommendation; ensure that everyone is on the same page with the procedure. There has not been adequate training and/or guidance on what the requirements are when RADAR goes out; other than 5 miles. There should be conclusive; unambiguous direction given by the CIC/FLM when we go into a nonstandard configuration.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of April 2012 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.