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Attributes | |
ACN | 92076 |
Time | |
Date | 198808 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : gmn |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 27000 msl bound upper : 28000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zla |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | departure sid : sid |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Route In Use | departure sid : sid |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : flight engineer pilot : commercial pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 270 flight time total : 10000 flight time type : 4000 |
ASRS Report | 92076 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 13000 flight time type : 6000 |
ASRS Report | 92257 |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : clearance non adherence : required legal separation |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course other |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 6000 vertical : 200 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
During en route climb, center asked for maximum forward speed and slow climb due to aircraft ahead and at higher altitude. The advised plan was to underrun slower/higher traffic. We were assigned several step climbs as the other aircraft was being worked up higher also. We were assigned 24000' while FL260, then to FL280. Initially we were assigned FL260. I climbed up to this level and levelled off. Next, center assigned us FL270 and said our traffic was at 2-3 O'clock at FL280. The traffic had been visible for the past 5-6 mins. As we passed FL270, both captain and I looked at the altitude alert it indicated 27800'. We tried to asked center to verify our altitude but frequency was being used between center and another aircraft. Captain asked me what altitude I thought had been assigned. I said, 'I heard FL280.' the other plane was at 3:30-4 O'clock now. Center breaks in on frequency and advised us to descend to FL270 immediately. We did. The fact I could see the traffic probably lowered my sense of altitude awareness. The fact I heard FL280 made me think altitude alert should be at FL280 vs FL270. Our proximity may have rung captain's alarm bell, but with our visual and instrument cues, it didn't seem too close to qualify as a near miss from our vantage point. Supplemental information from acn 92257: I realized I had not set the altitude alert correctly (it read 27800') and asked the first officer what altitude we were climbing to. He said '280.'
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR-MLG ALT DEVIATION OVERSHOT DURING CLIMB CAUSING LESS THAN STANDARD SEPARATION WITH ACR-MLG ON SAME DEP PARALLEL TRACK.
Narrative: DURING ENRTE CLB, CENTER ASKED FOR MAX FORWARD SPD AND SLOW CLB DUE TO ACFT AHEAD AND AT HIGHER ALT. THE ADVISED PLAN WAS TO UNDERRUN SLOWER/HIGHER TFC. WE WERE ASSIGNED SEVERAL STEP CLBS AS THE OTHER ACFT WAS BEING WORKED UP HIGHER ALSO. WE WERE ASSIGNED 24000' WHILE FL260, THEN TO FL280. INITIALLY WE WERE ASSIGNED FL260. I CLBED UP TO THIS LEVEL AND LEVELLED OFF. NEXT, CENTER ASSIGNED US FL270 AND SAID OUR TFC WAS AT 2-3 O'CLOCK AT FL280. THE TFC HAD BEEN VISIBLE FOR THE PAST 5-6 MINS. AS WE PASSED FL270, BOTH CAPT AND I LOOKED AT THE ALT ALERT IT INDICATED 27800'. WE TRIED TO ASKED CENTER TO VERIFY OUR ALT BUT FREQ WAS BEING USED BTWN CENTER AND ANOTHER ACFT. CAPT ASKED ME WHAT ALT I THOUGHT HAD BEEN ASSIGNED. I SAID, 'I HEARD FL280.' THE OTHER PLANE WAS AT 3:30-4 O'CLOCK NOW. CENTER BREAKS IN ON FREQ AND ADVISED US TO DSND TO FL270 IMMEDIATELY. WE DID. THE FACT I COULD SEE THE TFC PROBABLY LOWERED MY SENSE OF ALT AWARENESS. THE FACT I HEARD FL280 MADE ME THINK ALT ALERT SHOULD BE AT FL280 VS FL270. OUR PROX MAY HAVE RUNG CAPT'S ALARM BELL, BUT WITH OUR VISUAL AND INSTRUMENT CUES, IT DIDN'T SEEM TOO CLOSE TO QUALIFY AS A NEAR MISS FROM OUR VANTAGE POINT. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 92257: I REALIZED I HAD NOT SET THE ALT ALERT CORRECTLY (IT READ 27800') AND ASKED THE F/O WHAT ALT WE WERE CLBING TO. HE SAID '280.'
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.