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A CRJ200 flight crew missed a turn during taxi in when they became involved in a discussion of the unstabilized approach they had just completed.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 921060 |
| Time | |
| Date | 201011 |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801-2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | ZZZ.Airport |
| State Reference | US |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Make Model Name | Regional Jet 200 ER/LR (CRJ200) |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | Taxi |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Function | Captain Pilot Not Flying |
| Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | Deviation - Procedural Clearance Flight Deck / Cabin / Aircraft Event Other / Unknown Ground Incursion Taxiway Inflight Event / Encounter Unstabilized Approach Inflight Event / Encounter Wake Vortex Encounter |
Narrative:
The end result was taking a wrong turn off victor onto foxtrot when we were cleared to turn on echo. This happened because I was discussing the approach the first officer just flew. I should have saved the conversation for after the flight. On about a 12 mile final; we hit just the slightest bit of wake turbulence; probably from the preceding 757 on final. The first officer decided to hand fly the rest of the approach above the glide slope; upwind of the localizer; and at vref +15. He did this all the way to the threshold. I started feeling uncomfortable about it inside the outer marker. We were high and fast. I said; 'we're not going to make the touchdown zone.' he immediately cut the power. I'm not sure if we made the TDZ or not. It was pretty close. If we did make the end of the TDZ; it's only because I said something crossing the threshold; prompting him to cut the power. We were given a clearance to taxi. He started the discussion; defensively trying to justify landing beyond the TDZ. We ended up getting caught up in the conversation and missing the turn.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A CRJ200 flight crew missed a turn during taxi in when they became involved in a discussion of the unstabilized approach they had just completed.
Narrative: The end result was taking a wrong turn off Victor onto Foxtrot when we were cleared to turn on Echo. This happened because I was discussing the approach the First Officer just flew. I should have saved the conversation for after the flight. On about a 12 mile final; we hit just the slightest bit of wake turbulence; probably from the preceding 757 on final. The First Officer decided to hand fly the rest of the approach above the glide slope; upwind of the localizer; and at VRef +15. He did this all the way to the threshold. I started feeling uncomfortable about it inside the outer marker. We were high and fast. I said; 'We're not going to make the touchdown zone.' He immediately cut the power. I'm not sure if we made the TDZ or not. It was pretty close. If we did make the end of the TDZ; it's only because I said something crossing the threshold; prompting him to cut the power. We were given a clearance to taxi. He started the discussion; defensively trying to justify landing beyond the TDZ. We ended up getting caught up in the conversation and missing the turn.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of April 2012 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.