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Attributes | |
ACN | 92901 |
Time | |
Date | 198808 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : lga |
State Reference | NY |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 8500 msl bound upper : 8500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : n90 |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Large Transport, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | departure sid : sid |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, High Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Flight Plan | None |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 90 flight time total : 13000 |
ASRS Report | 92901 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 0 vertical : 350 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Narrative:
Time XA30Z, north.Y. Departure control: 'cleared 12000'.' when climbing through 6500' north Y departure controller: 'traffic 12 O'clock 7500', expedite through 8000'.' large transport: 'we're doing the best we can, we're out of 8000'.' ny departure control: 'contact (next) frequency.' we checked in ny departure control: 'traffic 12 O'clock, less than 1 mi 8500'.' the first officer saw the small aircraft Z pass beneath us in an evasive diving turn. Ny departure control: 'didn't the last controller point the traffic out?' large transport: 'he told us to expedite through 8000' because of traffic at 7500'.' ny departure control: 'there were 2 planes, one at 7500' and one at 8500'.' miscom almost cut short an otherwise sensational day.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: NMAC BETWEEN ACR-MLG AND KNOWN GA-SMA.
Narrative: TIME XA30Z, N.Y. DEP CTL: 'CLRED 12000'.' WHEN CLBING THROUGH 6500' N Y DEP CTLR: 'TFC 12 O'CLOCK 7500', EXPEDITE THROUGH 8000'.' LGT: 'WE'RE DOING THE BEST WE CAN, WE'RE OUT OF 8000'.' NY DEP CTL: 'CONTACT (NEXT) FREQ.' WE CHKED IN NY DEP CTL: 'TFC 12 O'CLOCK, LESS THAN 1 MI 8500'.' THE F/O SAW THE SMA Z PASS BENEATH US IN AN EVASIVE DIVING TURN. NY DEP CTL: 'DIDN'T THE LAST CTLR POINT THE TFC OUT?' LGT: 'HE TOLD US TO EXPEDITE THROUGH 8000' BECAUSE OF TFC AT 7500'.' NY DEP CTL: 'THERE WERE 2 PLANES, ONE AT 7500' AND ONE AT 8500'.' MISCOM ALMOST CUT SHORT AN OTHERWISE SENSATIONAL DAY.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.