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Attributes | |
ACN | 93082 |
Time | |
Date | 198808 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : msn |
State Reference | WI |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 250 agl bound upper : 250 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : msn |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Large Transport, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | climbout : initial climbout : takeoff |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, Low Wing, 1 Eng, Retractable Gear |
Flight Phase | other |
Flight Plan | None |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 240 flight time total : 17000 flight time type : 12000 |
ASRS Report | 93082 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac non adherence : clearance non adherence : required legal separation other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action none taken : insufficient time |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 350 vertical : 0 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
We were cleared for takeoff runway 18 at msn. As power was being brought up for takeoff, the second officer asked, 'do you have that guy?' it took me (captain) a while to pick up small aircraft Y that had made a touch and go landing on runway 22 and was just going west of runway 18 centerline in front of us. Small aircraft Y was instructed by tower to make right traffic, which would have cleared our flight path on takeoff. Instead small aircraft Y made a left turn in front of us at about 200-300' AGL as we were rotating. I instructed the copilot (who was making the takeoff) to go right as we were leaving the runway to miss aircraft Y. We passed him level with about 300-400' latitude sep. I feel that the third pilot's (i.e., second officer) observation and callout might possibly have prevented a midair. I also think it would be a good idea for tower to wait until their instructions have been complied with before clearing another aircraft for takeoff where a conflict exists if the other aircraft doesn't comply. Supplemental information from acn 93362: following the third touch and go on runway 22 ATC directed us to fly what we understood as left traffic after ATC confused our tail # with that of another aircraft momentarily. As we turned left downwind for runway 22, ATC had already cleared air carrier X to take off on runway 18, not noticing that we were flying left instead of right traffic, which it turned out we were instructed to fly.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: NMAC AND LESS THAN STANDARD SEPARATION BETWEEN ACR AND SMA IN TRAFFIC PATTERN. PLT DEVIATION AND PROBABLE OPERATIONAL ERROR.
Narrative: WE WERE CLRED FOR TKOF RWY 18 AT MSN. AS PWR WAS BEING BROUGHT UP FOR TKOF, THE S/O ASKED, 'DO YOU HAVE THAT GUY?' IT TOOK ME (CAPT) A WHILE TO PICK UP SMA Y THAT HAD MADE A TOUCH AND GO LNDG ON RWY 22 AND WAS JUST GOING W OF RWY 18 CENTERLINE IN FRONT OF US. SMA Y WAS INSTRUCTED BY TWR TO MAKE RIGHT TFC, WHICH WOULD HAVE CLRED OUR FLT PATH ON TKOF. INSTEAD SMA Y MADE A LEFT TURN IN FRONT OF US AT ABOUT 200-300' AGL AS WE WERE ROTATING. I INSTRUCTED THE COPLT (WHO WAS MAKING THE TKOF) TO GO RIGHT AS WE WERE LEAVING THE RWY TO MISS ACFT Y. WE PASSED HIM LEVEL WITH ABOUT 300-400' LAT SEP. I FEEL THAT THE THIRD PLT'S (I.E., S/O) OBSERVATION AND CALLOUT MIGHT POSSIBLY HAVE PREVENTED A MIDAIR. I ALSO THINK IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA FOR TWR TO WAIT UNTIL THEIR INSTRUCTIONS HAVE BEEN COMPLIED WITH BEFORE CLEARING ANOTHER ACFT FOR TKOF WHERE A CONFLICT EXISTS IF THE OTHER ACFT DOESN'T COMPLY. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 93362: FOLLOWING THE THIRD TOUCH AND GO ON RWY 22 ATC DIRECTED US TO FLY WHAT WE UNDERSTOOD AS LEFT TFC AFTER ATC CONFUSED OUR TAIL # WITH THAT OF ANOTHER ACFT MOMENTARILY. AS WE TURNED LEFT DOWNWIND FOR RWY 22, ATC HAD ALREADY CLRED ACR X TO TAKE OFF ON RWY 18, NOT NOTICING THAT WE WERE FLYING LEFT INSTEAD OF RIGHT TFC, WHICH IT TURNED OUT WE WERE INSTRUCTED TO FLY.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.