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Attributes | |
ACN | 93220 |
Time | |
Date | 198808 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : dtw |
State Reference | MI |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 3000 msl bound upper : 3000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Dusk |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : dtw tower : dtw tracon : lax |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | Medium Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 9500 flight time type : 2000 |
ASRS Report | 93220 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 6000 flight time type : 1500 |
ASRS Report | 93219 |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : clearance other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
Corporate business flight from bos to dtw. We were handed off from cle center to dtw approach control. We were assigned a heading to maintain, an altitude, and told to expect radar vectors for an ILS 3L approach. Everything seemed normal until we were given the final heading to 'intercept the localizer, maintain 2700' until established on approach, contact tower on 118.4.' there is no 2700' depicted on the ILS 3L approach. 118.4 is the tower frequency for the right side of the airport. We did not intercept the localizer in a normal amount of time. I asked the tower if they showed us to the right of course. Their response was: 'no, we show you to the left of course, turn right to a heading of 050 degrees.' I then asked the tower to 'confirm we are cleared for the ILS 3L?' 'no, you were cleared for the ILS to runway 3R, execute missed approach aircraft 3 mi behind you.' what went wrong? We planned an approach to the left runway but at some point in time were changed to the right runway. We were not made aware of this change nor did we acknowledge it. This type of sidestep is normal here in dtw and beneficial to the airlines and GA as well. We both land near to our gate areas. Corrective action: I think the real problem is the workload of approach control radar. Their staff level must be increased. Air carrier X airlines was merged with air carrier Y airlines. Air carrier X in turn, made dtw a major hub. This significantly increased all operations. Any airport with parallel runways should have different runway numbers for instrument runway approachs. For example, atl. Atl's runway 8 and runway 9 are in fact parallel. Require more times being told exactly what instrument approach you are being vectored for and the acknowledgements as well.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CPR SMT WRONG RWY APCH.
Narrative: CORPORATE BUSINESS FLT FROM BOS TO DTW. WE WERE HANDED OFF FROM CLE CENTER TO DTW APCH CTL. WE WERE ASSIGNED A HDG TO MAINTAIN, AN ALT, AND TOLD TO EXPECT RADAR VECTORS FOR AN ILS 3L APCH. EVERYTHING SEEMED NORMAL UNTIL WE WERE GIVEN THE FINAL HDG TO 'INTERCEPT THE LOC, MAINTAIN 2700' UNTIL ESTABLISHED ON APCH, CONTACT TWR ON 118.4.' THERE IS NO 2700' DEPICTED ON THE ILS 3L APCH. 118.4 IS THE TWR FREQ FOR THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE ARPT. WE DID NOT INTERCEPT THE LOC IN A NORMAL AMOUNT OF TIME. I ASKED THE TWR IF THEY SHOWED US TO THE RIGHT OF COURSE. THEIR RESPONSE WAS: 'NO, WE SHOW YOU TO THE LEFT OF COURSE, TURN RIGHT TO A HDG OF 050 DEGS.' I THEN ASKED THE TWR TO 'CONFIRM WE ARE CLRED FOR THE ILS 3L?' 'NO, YOU WERE CLRED FOR THE ILS TO RWY 3R, EXECUTE MISSED APCH ACFT 3 MI BEHIND YOU.' WHAT WENT WRONG? WE PLANNED AN APCH TO THE LEFT RWY BUT AT SOME POINT IN TIME WERE CHANGED TO THE RIGHT RWY. WE WERE NOT MADE AWARE OF THIS CHANGE NOR DID WE ACKNOWLEDGE IT. THIS TYPE OF SIDESTEP IS NORMAL HERE IN DTW AND BENEFICIAL TO THE AIRLINES AND GA AS WELL. WE BOTH LAND NEAR TO OUR GATE AREAS. CORRECTIVE ACTION: I THINK THE REAL PROBLEM IS THE WORKLOAD OF APCH CTL RADAR. THEIR STAFF LEVEL MUST BE INCREASED. ACR X AIRLINES WAS MERGED WITH ACR Y AIRLINES. ACR X IN TURN, MADE DTW A MAJOR HUB. THIS SIGNIFICANTLY INCREASED ALL OPS. ANY ARPT WITH PARALLEL RWYS SHOULD HAVE DIFFERENT RWY NUMBERS FOR INSTRUMENT RWY APCHS. FOR EXAMPLE, ATL. ATL'S RWY 8 AND RWY 9 ARE IN FACT PARALLEL. REQUIRE MORE TIMES BEING TOLD EXACTLY WHAT INSTRUMENT APCH YOU ARE BEING VECTORED FOR AND THE ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS AS WELL.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.