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Attributes | |
ACN | 93329 |
Time | |
Date | 198808 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : har |
State Reference | PA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 32500 msl bound upper : 33000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Mixed |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zny tower : sea |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | cruise other descent other |
Route In Use | enroute airway : j152 |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 245 flight time total : 7900 flight time type : 760 |
ASRS Report | 93329 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 225 flight time total : 14000 flight time type : 3000 |
ASRS Report | 93035 |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : required legal separation |
Independent Detector | atc equipment other atc equipment : unspecified other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance none taken : insufficient time |
Consequence | faa : investigated faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 12000 vertical : 500 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
We were air carrier X established on J152 at FL330, in and out of rainshower cloud tops with in-flight visibility of approximately 5-6 miles. Ny center was very busy and, quite suddenly ordered us to 'expedite to FL310' and an air carrier Y to turn left to a westerly heading 'immediately.' I was talking to company when this was broadcast, when I looked out my side, I saw the air carrier Y in a steep left bank. (We later found out it was 500' and 2 mi at the closest). ATC referred to it as an 'operational error'. The air carrier Y pilot asked if we were where we were supposed to be, center's answer was 'yes' and that he was real busy in another portion of the sector with 2 other conflicts. Suggest suitable watch supervisor to backup active controller during real busy operations.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: LESS THAN STANDARD SEPARATION BETWEEN TWO ACR. OPERATIONAL ERROR.
Narrative: WE WERE ACR X ESTABLISHED ON J152 AT FL330, IN AND OUT OF RAINSHOWER CLOUD TOPS WITH INFLT VISIBILITY OF APPROX 5-6 MILES. NY CTR WAS VERY BUSY AND, QUITE SUDDENLY ORDERED US TO 'EXPEDITE TO FL310' AND AN ACR Y TO TURN L TO A WESTERLY HDG 'IMMEDIATELY.' I WAS TALKING TO COMPANY WHEN THIS WAS BROADCAST, WHEN I LOOKED OUT MY SIDE, I SAW THE ACR Y IN A STEEP L BANK. (WE LATER FOUND OUT IT WAS 500' AND 2 MI AT THE CLOSEST). ATC REFERRED TO IT AS AN 'OPERATIONAL ERROR'. THE ACR Y PLT ASKED IF WE WERE WHERE WE WERE SUPPOSED TO BE, CENTER'S ANSWER WAS 'YES' AND THAT HE WAS REAL BUSY IN ANOTHER PORTION OF THE SECTOR WITH 2 OTHER CONFLICTS. SUGGEST SUITABLE WATCH SUPVR TO BACKUP ACTIVE CTLR DURING REAL BUSY OPS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.