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Attributes | |
ACN | 93344 |
Time | |
Date | 198808 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : bpr |
State Reference | TX |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 7000 msl bound upper : 7000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Marginal |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zfw tower : cdg |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Light Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 250 flight time total : 4700 flight time type : 400 |
ASRS Report | 93344 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac non adherence : far |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : insufficient time none taken : unable |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 200 vertical : 0 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Situations | |
ATC Facility | procedure or policy : unspecified |
Narrative:
Center had cleared us to cross 5 mi out at 6000'. At about 8 mi center told us about an small transport at 9000' nebnd. We were looking for him when an small aircraft appeared at 2 O'clock and at our altitude. There was no time to react. We just happened to both be at an angle that caused us to miss. We informed center we had the twin and an small aircraft close and at our altitude, center's response was 'thank you'. A major contributor is ft worth's center not allowing turbo propellers on the jet arrivals. So we are always down low worth GA aircraft.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: DESCENDING LTT HAS NMAC WITH SMA NW OF DFW.
Narrative: CENTER HAD CLRED US TO CROSS 5 MI OUT AT 6000'. AT ABOUT 8 MI CENTER TOLD US ABOUT AN SMT AT 9000' NEBND. WE WERE LOOKING FOR HIM WHEN AN SMA APPEARED AT 2 O'CLOCK AND AT OUR ALT. THERE WAS NO TIME TO REACT. WE JUST HAPPENED TO BOTH BE AT AN ANGLE THAT CAUSED US TO MISS. WE INFORMED CENTER WE HAD THE TWIN AND AN SMA CLOSE AND AT OUR ALT, CENTER'S RESPONSE WAS 'THANK YOU'. A MAJOR CONTRIBUTOR IS FT WORTH'S CENTER NOT ALLOWING TURBO PROPS ON THE JET ARRIVALS. SO WE ARE ALWAYS DOWN LOW WORTH GA ACFT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.