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Attributes | |
ACN | 93732 |
Time | |
Date | 198808 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : 2i4 |
State Reference | OH |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, Low Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear |
Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff ground other : taxi |
Flight Plan | None |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : private |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 50 flight time total : 320 flight time type : 50 |
ASRS Report | 93732 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : local |
Qualification | controller : non radar |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
A flight instructor and another man came outside and looked up at the flags to the south of the tower and commented about the wind. The flags and 2 windsocks on the field indicated that the wind was from the south. I spoke with them briefly, asking why the tower had traffic using runway 4 instead of runway 22. There were at least 4 aircraft in the pattern. They said that they couldn't figure it out either, and I went to my plane. After preflight, I called ground and asked for a wind check...120 at 8. I started up and lined up with the windsock. 170 degree. Then I called the tower (ground + tower = same person this shift) and said I didn't mean to split hair, but the wind was from the south, thinking that I did not want to depart to the north with a tailwind on takeoff. The controller said that my indications were wrong and instructed me to taxi to runway 4. As I was by myself in a lightly loaded airplane, I decided to go with the tailwind. I considered this to be an unsafe situation if not for myself, then for someone else less experienced, more heavily loaded, etc.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: WINDSOCK INDICATING WIND FROM SOUTH, TWR CONTINUED TO USE RWY 4 FOR DEPARTURE.
Narrative: A FLT INSTRUCTOR AND ANOTHER MAN CAME OUTSIDE AND LOOKED UP AT THE FLAGS TO THE S OF THE TWR AND COMMENTED ABOUT THE WIND. THE FLAGS AND 2 WINDSOCKS ON THE FIELD INDICATED THAT THE WIND WAS FROM THE S. I SPOKE WITH THEM BRIEFLY, ASKING WHY THE TWR HAD TFC USING RWY 4 INSTEAD OF RWY 22. THERE WERE AT LEAST 4 ACFT IN THE PATTERN. THEY SAID THAT THEY COULDN'T FIGURE IT OUT EITHER, AND I WENT TO MY PLANE. AFTER PREFLT, I CALLED GND AND ASKED FOR A WIND CHK...120 AT 8. I STARTED UP AND LINED UP WITH THE WINDSOCK. 170 DEG. THEN I CALLED THE TWR (GND + TWR = SAME PERSON THIS SHIFT) AND SAID I DIDN'T MEAN TO SPLIT HAIR, BUT THE WIND WAS FROM THE S, THINKING THAT I DID NOT WANT TO DEPART TO THE N WITH A TAILWIND ON TKOF. THE CTLR SAID THAT MY INDICATIONS WERE WRONG AND INSTRUCTED ME TO TAXI TO RWY 4. AS I WAS BY MYSELF IN A LIGHTLY LOADED AIRPLANE, I DECIDED TO GO WITH THE TAILWIND. I CONSIDERED THIS TO BE AN UNSAFE SITUATION IF NOT FOR MYSELF, THEN FOR SOMEONE ELSE LESS EXPERIENCED, MORE HEAVILY LOADED, ETC.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.