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Attributes | |
ACN | 94303 |
Time | |
Date | 198809 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : den |
State Reference | CO |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 14000 msl bound upper : 15000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : den |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Widebody, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude descent other |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 209 flight time total : 17192 flight time type : 1780 |
ASRS Report | 94303 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude conflict : airborne less severe other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance other |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 6000 vertical : 1000 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation Operational Deviation Intra Facility Coordination Failure |
Narrative:
The captain was flying. We had taken off on runway 8R den 8 departure (vector). We were level at 14000' wbound crossing the den 230 degree right 20 NM at 250 KTS. We had just entered light to moderate rain shower. Static was heavy on the radio. We heard departure control call us faintly through the static. Captain started climb to FL260. I called for clarification. Departure control came through loud and clear, 'remain at 14000' and turn to 260.' we descended from 14700 to 14000' and were told that there was an air carrier Y at 15000' eastbound at 1 mi. Shortly thereafter (23 NM) we were cleared to FL230. The den 8 departure special instructions caution: 'aircraft wbound between den R-230 and R-300 which have not received climb clearance above 14000' prior to 20 mi west shall squawk identify. Climb immediately to 15000' and advise.' the above caution had us ready to start climb since we were at that point. The poor radio transmission quality caused some confusion. Considering the above caution, I do not believe there should be eastbound aircraft assigned to 15000' in this airspace.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: POTENTIAL LOSS OF SEPARATION AND POTENTIAL CLOSE PROX BETWEEN 2 ACR ACFT. PLT DEVIATION OR OPERATIONAL DEVIATION.
Narrative: THE CAPT WAS FLYING. WE HAD TAKEN OFF ON RWY 8R DEN 8 DEP (VECTOR). WE WERE LEVEL AT 14000' WBOUND XING THE DEN 230 DEG R 20 NM AT 250 KTS. WE HAD JUST ENTERED LIGHT TO MODERATE RAIN SHOWER. STATIC WAS HEAVY ON THE RADIO. WE HEARD DEP CTL CALL US FAINTLY THROUGH THE STATIC. CAPT STARTED CLB TO FL260. I CALLED FOR CLARIFICATION. DEP CTL CAME THROUGH LOUD AND CLEAR, 'REMAIN AT 14000' AND TURN TO 260.' WE DSNDED FROM 14700 TO 14000' AND WERE TOLD THAT THERE WAS AN ACR Y AT 15000' EBND AT 1 MI. SHORTLY THEREAFTER (23 NM) WE WERE CLRED TO FL230. THE DEN 8 DEP SPECIAL INSTRUCTIONS CAUTION: 'ACFT WBOUND BTWN DEN R-230 AND R-300 WHICH HAVE NOT RECEIVED CLB CLRNC ABOVE 14000' PRIOR TO 20 MI W SHALL SQUAWK IDENT. CLB IMMEDIATELY TO 15000' AND ADVISE.' THE ABOVE CAUTION HAD US READY TO START CLB SINCE WE WERE AT THAT POINT. THE POOR RADIO XMISSION QUALITY CAUSED SOME CONFUSION. CONSIDERING THE ABOVE CAUTION, I DO NOT BELIEVE THERE SHOULD BE EBND ACFT ASSIGNED TO 15000' IN THIS AIRSPACE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.