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Attributes | |
ACN | 94485 |
Time | |
Date | 198809 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : bae |
State Reference | WI |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 35000 msl bound upper : 35000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zau |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Route In Use | arrival star : star enroute airway : j70 |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 13800 flight time type : 6800 |
ASRS Report | 94485 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : less severe other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course flight crew : overcame equipment problem |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Aircraft |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
Flight from atl to msp. Per standard flight plan cleared via judas 6 arrival to msp. Approximately 70 DME northwest of badger VOR on J70 ZAU (133.32) called to ask if we showed on J70. We answered affirmative. ZAU replied that we showed on radar to be 10 mi south of J70 and gave us a right correction to intercept J70. When this happened, I (captain) was flying with my navigation radio tuned to the badger VOR with J70 outbnd arwy set in my obs with the copilot's navigation radio tuned to the gopher VOR and the proper inbound J70 arwy radial set in his obs for the intercept. After ZAU told us of this arwy deviation, both pilots verified the captain's navigation radio frequency and identify. We both verified the proper radial set on the captain's obs. All checked out ok. Next we tuned the copilot's navigation radio to that of the captain's and observed a nearly full-scale deflection of copilot's VOR needle to the right of scale, verifying the offset which ZAU had observed on radar. We were changed to msp center for 133.75. We told msp of the suspected discrepancy between #1 and #2 navigation radios, asked for another location fix which msp showed to still be south of centerline but correcting, and told center we would enter these discrepancies in aircraft logbook for maintenance to check in msp. Copilot's navigation radio was used for remainder of arrival sequence, even though the captain's VOR now indicated correctly when tuned to both gopher and minneapolis VOR's. Another captain VOR discrepancy was noted when intercepting the msp localizer 29-1 final approach course. Msp maintenance was notified via radio and captain entered a short version of the above narrative on aircraft logbook page captain described problem to tech. Diagnosis: intermittent erroneous readings/indications on #1 VOR navigation receiver. Fix: right & east mechanic installed new navigation receiver (#1) which checked ok. Aircraft then departed for bismarck.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR MLG DEVIATED FROM CLRNC ROUTE DUE TO ACFT NAV RADIO PROBLEM.
Narrative: FLT FROM ATL TO MSP. PER STANDARD FLT PLAN CLRED VIA JUDAS 6 ARR TO MSP. APPROX 70 DME NW OF BADGER VOR ON J70 ZAU (133.32) CALLED TO ASK IF WE SHOWED ON J70. WE ANSWERED AFFIRMATIVE. ZAU REPLIED THAT WE SHOWED ON RADAR TO BE 10 MI S OF J70 AND GAVE US A RIGHT CORRECTION TO INTERCEPT J70. WHEN THIS HAPPENED, I (CAPT) WAS FLYING WITH MY NAV RADIO TUNED TO THE BADGER VOR WITH J70 OUTBND ARWY SET IN MY OBS WITH THE COPLT'S NAV RADIO TUNED TO THE GOPHER VOR AND THE PROPER INBND J70 ARWY RADIAL SET IN HIS OBS FOR THE INTERCEPT. AFTER ZAU TOLD US OF THIS ARWY DEVIATION, BOTH PLTS VERIFIED THE CAPT'S NAV RADIO FREQ AND IDENT. WE BOTH VERIFIED THE PROPER RADIAL SET ON THE CAPT'S OBS. ALL CHKED OUT OK. NEXT WE TUNED THE COPLT'S NAV RADIO TO THAT OF THE CAPT'S AND OBSERVED A NEARLY FULL-SCALE DEFLECTION OF COPLT'S VOR NEEDLE TO THE RIGHT OF SCALE, VERIFYING THE OFFSET WHICH ZAU HAD OBSERVED ON RADAR. WE WERE CHANGED TO MSP CENTER FOR 133.75. WE TOLD MSP OF THE SUSPECTED DISCREPANCY BTWN #1 AND #2 NAV RADIOS, ASKED FOR ANOTHER LOCATION FIX WHICH MSP SHOWED TO STILL BE S OF CENTERLINE BUT CORRECTING, AND TOLD CENTER WE WOULD ENTER THESE DISCREPANCIES IN ACFT LOGBOOK FOR MAINT TO CHK IN MSP. COPLT'S NAV RADIO WAS USED FOR REMAINDER OF ARR SEQUENCE, EVEN THOUGH THE CAPT'S VOR NOW INDICATED CORRECTLY WHEN TUNED TO BOTH GOPHER AND MINNEAPOLIS VOR'S. ANOTHER CAPT VOR DISCREPANCY WAS NOTED WHEN INTERCEPTING THE MSP LOC 29-1 FINAL APCH COURSE. MSP MAINT WAS NOTIFIED VIA RADIO AND CAPT ENTERED A SHORT VERSION OF THE ABOVE NARRATIVE ON ACFT LOGBOOK PAGE CAPT DESCRIBED PROB TO TECH. DIAGNOSIS: INTERMITTENT ERRONEOUS READINGS/INDICATIONS ON #1 VOR NAV RECEIVER. FIX: R & E MECH INSTALLED NEW NAV RECEIVER (#1) WHICH CHKED OK. ACFT THEN DEPARTED FOR BISMARCK.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.