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Attributes | |
ACN | 94663 |
Time | |
Date | 198809 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : mry |
State Reference | CA |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : mry |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Large Transport, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : visual enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
ASRS Report | 94663 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Situations | |
ATC Facility | procedure or policy : unspecified |
Narrative:
This report is being written to alert you to the fact that when visibility is VFR, monterey approach control and tower routinely clear airplanes to fly over rapidly rising terrain south of airport to enter downwind for a left hand visual approach to runway 28L. This requires either a very long extended high downwind leg or flying a 500' ag over the hill tops on downwind and base legs for a 'normal pattern.' I consider it a marginal procedure at best and in reduced visibility (below 5 NM) downright dangerous and noisy for the residents of the community. This clearance and procedure is given for 'traffic' and ATC is reluctant and most often refuses a request for a right hand pattern and downwind entry south of the airport over relatively flat and safe terrain.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: COMPLAINS OF VISUAL APCHS OVER HIGH TERRAIN FOR LNDG TO THE WEST.
Narrative: THIS RPT IS BEING WRITTEN TO ALERT YOU TO THE FACT THAT WHEN VISIBILITY IS VFR, MONTEREY APCH CTL AND TWR ROUTINELY CLR AIRPLANES TO FLY OVER RAPIDLY RISING TERRAIN S OF ARPT TO ENTER DOWNWIND FOR A L HAND VISUAL APCH TO RWY 28L. THIS REQUIRES EITHER A VERY LONG EXTENDED HIGH DOWNWIND LEG OR FLYING A 500' AG OVER THE HILL TOPS ON DOWNWIND AND BASE LEGS FOR A 'NORMAL PATTERN.' I CONSIDER IT A MARGINAL PROC AT BEST AND IN REDUCED VISIBILITY (BELOW 5 NM) DOWNRIGHT DANGEROUS AND NOISY FOR THE RESIDENTS OF THE COMMUNITY. THIS CLRNC AND PROC IS GIVEN FOR 'TFC' AND ATC IS RELUCTANT AND MOST OFTEN REFUSES A REQUEST FOR A R HAND PATTERN AND DOWNWIND ENTRY S OF THE ARPT OVER RELATIVELY FLAT AND SAFE TERRAIN.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.