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Attributes | |
ACN | 94783 |
Time | |
Date | 198809 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : atl |
State Reference | GA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 5000 msl bound upper : 8000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : atl tracon : mcn tower : cle |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Light Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Route In Use | arrival star : star |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 4000 flight time type : 1000 |
ASRS Report | 94783 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : less severe other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance other |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
Descending from cruise on the transition (collier) of sinca arrival into atl. I was told to contact mcn approach by atl center. Contact with mcn was established at 10000' and we were cleared to 8000' right turn 260 degrees (?) to join the 128 degree right atl. Clearance was read back. Following this radio transmission the flight crew could clearly hear mcn approach talking to other aircraft. The controller sounded busy but not unusually so. Sometime after initial contact the mcn controller asked for a short count. Flight crew complied and could continue to hear mcn receive and transmit. Conversation between flight crew members was at a minimum at this time, with very little conversation. At about 25 DME from atl I began to get nervous, we had not been handed off to atl approach. At about 20 DME we could hear mcn transmit 'air carrier xyz if you hear mcn contact atl approach on 127.9.' this instruction was readback and radio contact was established with atl approach who then gave us an 180 degree turn back from atl toward mcn. Shortly thereafter we were turned back to atl and descend to 5000'. Approach and landing in atl was uneventful. After landing chief pilot informed me that atl approach was upset for not calling atl approach sooner. We had evidently held up higher jet traffic going into atl. I talked to atl supervisor and explained the situation. Radio failure? I don't know. Throughout the flight we could constantly hear mcn receiving and transmitting to other aircraft. We constantly monitored the radio. I don't believe we missed a call from mcn because as I said, cockpit conversation was at a minimum. Workload was at a minimum.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FREQ CHANGE LATE ACCOUNT LOST CONTACT WITH MCN APCH CTLR.
Narrative: DSNDING FROM CRUISE ON THE TRANSITION (COLLIER) OF SINCA ARR INTO ATL. I WAS TOLD TO CONTACT MCN APCH BY ATL CENTER. CONTACT WITH MCN WAS ESTABLISHED AT 10000' AND WE WERE CLRED TO 8000' RIGHT TURN 260 DEGS (?) TO JOIN THE 128 DEG R ATL. CLRNC WAS READ BACK. FOLLOWING THIS RADIO XMISSION THE FLT CREW COULD CLEARLY HEAR MCN APCH TALKING TO OTHER ACFT. THE CTLR SOUNDED BUSY BUT NOT UNUSUALLY SO. SOMETIME AFTER INITIAL CONTACT THE MCN CTLR ASKED FOR A SHORT COUNT. FLT CREW COMPLIED AND COULD CONTINUE TO HEAR MCN RECEIVE AND XMIT. CONVERSATION BTWN FLT CREW MEMBERS WAS AT A MINIMUM AT THIS TIME, WITH VERY LITTLE CONVERSATION. AT ABOUT 25 DME FROM ATL I BEGAN TO GET NERVOUS, WE HAD NOT BEEN HANDED OFF TO ATL APCH. AT ABOUT 20 DME WE COULD HEAR MCN XMIT 'ACR XYZ IF YOU HEAR MCN CONTACT ATL APCH ON 127.9.' THIS INSTRUCTION WAS READBACK AND RADIO CONTACT WAS ESTABLISHED WITH ATL APCH WHO THEN GAVE US AN 180 DEG TURN BACK FROM ATL TOWARD MCN. SHORTLY THEREAFTER WE WERE TURNED BACK TO ATL AND DSND TO 5000'. APCH AND LNDG IN ATL WAS UNEVENTFUL. AFTER LNDG CHIEF PLT INFORMED ME THAT ATL APCH WAS UPSET FOR NOT CALLING ATL APCH SOONER. WE HAD EVIDENTLY HELD UP HIGHER JET TFC GOING INTO ATL. I TALKED TO ATL SUPVR AND EXPLAINED THE SITUATION. RADIO FAILURE? I DON'T KNOW. THROUGHOUT THE FLT WE COULD CONSTANTLY HEAR MCN RECEIVING AND XMITTING TO OTHER ACFT. WE CONSTANTLY MONITORED THE RADIO. I DON'T BELIEVE WE MISSED A CALL FROM MCN BECAUSE AS I SAID, COCKPIT CONVERSATION WAS AT A MINIMUM. WORKLOAD WAS AT A MINIMUM.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.