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Attributes | |
ACN | 95893 |
Time | |
Date | 198810 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : lgb |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 200 agl bound upper : 400 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : lgb |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Light Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach landing other |
Route In Use | approach : visual |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Helicopter |
Flight Phase | landing other |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 5200 flight time type : 400 |
ASRS Report | 95893 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : local |
Qualification | controller : non radar |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : unable none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 1500 vertical : 0 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
We were doing the visual approach into lgb runway 30. About 2-3 mi out we heard a helicopter call inbound for landing. After the helicopter reported us in sight he was cleared to land at xyz ramp (I didn't understand where) at pilot's own risk. About this time I spotted him ahead and to my left. We were now about 1 mi final. Much to my surprise as we approached the threshold the helicopter crossed in front of us at an altitude of about 200-300 MSL. This eliminated any option we had to make a go around. If we had attempted a go around our chances of not hitting the helicopter were about 50/50. Since the go around option is a safety option--had I known he was going to cross in front of us--I would have abandoned the approach while it was safe. Unfortunately this type of occurrence is not uncommon at lgb. In my last 2 dozen arrs this is the second time the tower has created a conflict to such a degree. Much of their problem stems from the mix of traffic and confusing hodge-podge of runways and traffic patterns. Among other things, the controllers don't seem to understand that sometimes a pilot must do the unexpected (go around) for safety.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: HELICOPTER FLEW IN FRONT OF AN SLIGHTLY HIGHER THAN LTT-COMMUTER ON SHORT FINAL.
Narrative: WE WERE DOING THE VISUAL APCH INTO LGB RWY 30. ABOUT 2-3 MI OUT WE HEARD A HELI CALL INBND FOR LNDG. AFTER THE HELI RPTED US IN SIGHT HE WAS CLRED TO LAND AT XYZ RAMP (I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND WHERE) AT PLT'S OWN RISK. ABOUT THIS TIME I SPOTTED HIM AHEAD AND TO MY LEFT. WE WERE NOW ABOUT 1 MI FINAL. MUCH TO MY SURPRISE AS WE APCHED THE THRESHOLD THE HELI CROSSED IN FRONT OF US AT AN ALT OF ABOUT 200-300 MSL. THIS ELIMINATED ANY OPTION WE HAD TO MAKE A GO AROUND. IF WE HAD ATTEMPTED A GO AROUND OUR CHANCES OF NOT HITTING THE HELI WERE ABOUT 50/50. SINCE THE GO AROUND OPTION IS A SAFETY OPTION--HAD I KNOWN HE WAS GOING TO CROSS IN FRONT OF US--I WOULD HAVE ABANDONED THE APCH WHILE IT WAS SAFE. UNFORTUNATELY THIS TYPE OF OCCURRENCE IS NOT UNCOMMON AT LGB. IN MY LAST 2 DOZEN ARRS THIS IS THE SECOND TIME THE TWR HAS CREATED A CONFLICT TO SUCH A DEG. MUCH OF THEIR PROB STEMS FROM THE MIX OF TFC AND CONFUSING HODGE-PODGE OF RWYS AND TFC PATTERNS. AMONG OTHER THINGS, THE CTLRS DON'T SEEM TO UNDERSTAND THAT SOMETIMES A PLT MUST DO THE UNEXPECTED (GO AROUND) FOR SAFETY.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.