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Attributes | |
ACN | 96575 |
Time | |
Date | 198810 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : sea |
State Reference | WA |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zny |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Large Transport, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | landing other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer |
Experience | flight time total : 10000 |
ASRS Report | 96575 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : second officer |
Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 120 flight time total : 4000 flight time type : 900 |
ASRS Report | 96149 |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted other |
Consequence | faa : investigated |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation other |
Situations | |
Airport | other physical facility |
Narrative:
We landed in sea at approximately XA40. It was raining and the ceiling and visibility were no factor. At about 100' the first officer called on glide slope bug +12. We landed in the first one-third of the runway on speed. I used full reverse and braking to the high speed turn off. Since it was raining I elected to roll to the end. I continued to brake to the end. We were at walking speed when I started to turn off. The aircraft skidded and brakes had no effect. I released brakes and reapplied at this time the anti-skid started to cycle. The aircraft was pointed at the grass, at this time I elected to straighten the aircraft out and stop straight ahead. The nose wheel stopped about 5' into the clear way, between the lights. We called for a meeting tug because we couldn't tell our exact position. They checked us and the lights then pushed us back and we taxied to the gate. Arrived at XB01. I feel that the rain combined with the fact that the threshold stripes had just been newly pained made the turn off extremely slick. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following: this was first rain sea had since painting runway markings and they were extremely slick. Also this runway had a down hill gradient at roll out end. PF said since had not made high speed because of wet did not attempt turn off there but took out of reverse as thought was slow enough. FAA rode with him on scheduled sim check and observed his taxi on wet runway and were satisfied with procedure. Blamed incident on new paint and rain.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR LGT UNABLE TURN AT END OF RWY DUE TO SLICK WET FRESH PAINT ENDED UP WITH NOSE GEAR IN OVERRUN.
Narrative: WE LANDED IN SEA AT APPROX XA40. IT WAS RAINING AND THE CEILING AND VIS WERE NO FACTOR. AT ABOUT 100' THE F/O CALLED ON GLIDE SLOPE BUG +12. WE LANDED IN THE FIRST ONE-THIRD OF THE RUNWAY ON SPD. I USED FULL REVERSE AND BRAKING TO THE HIGH SPEED TURN OFF. SINCE IT WAS RAINING I ELECTED TO ROLL TO THE END. I CONTINUED TO BRAKE TO THE END. WE WERE AT WALKING SPEED WHEN I STARTED TO TURN OFF. THE ACFT SKIDDED AND BRAKES HAD NO EFFECT. I RELEASED BRAKES AND REAPPLIED AT THIS TIME THE ANTI-SKID STARTED TO CYCLE. THE ACFT WAS POINTED AT THE GRASS, AT THIS TIME I ELECTED TO STRAIGHTEN THE ACFT OUT AND STOP STRAIGHT AHEAD. THE NOSE WHEEL STOPPED ABOUT 5' INTO THE CLEAR WAY, BETWEEN THE LIGHTS. WE CALLED FOR A MEETING TUG BECAUSE WE COULDN'T TELL OUR EXACT POSITION. THEY CHECKED US AND THE LIGHTS THEN PUSHED US BACK AND WE TAXIED TO THE GATE. ARRIVED AT XB01. I FEEL THAT THE RAIN COMBINED WITH THE FACT THAT THE THRESHOLD STRIPES HAD JUST BEEN NEWLY PAINED MADE THE TURN OFF EXTREMELY SLICK. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH REPORTER REVEALED THE FOLLOWING: THIS WAS FIRST RAIN SEA HAD SINCE PAINTING RWY MARKINGS AND THEY WERE EXTREMELY SLICK. ALSO THIS RWY HAD A DOWN HILL GRADIENT AT ROLL OUT END. PF SAID SINCE HAD NOT MADE HIGH SPEED BECAUSE OF WET DID NOT ATTEMPT TURN OFF THERE BUT TOOK OUT OF REVERSE AS THOUGHT WAS SLOW ENOUGH. FAA RODE WITH HIM ON SCHEDULED SIM CHECK AND OBSERVED HIS TAXI ON WET RWY AND WERE SATISFIED WITH PROC. BLAMED INCIDENT ON NEW PAINT AND RAIN.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.