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Attributes | |
ACN | 96619 |
Time | |
Date | 198810 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : das airport : iah |
State Reference | TX |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 8300 msl bound upper : 8300 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : iah |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Route In Use | arrival star : star |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, High Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Flight Plan | None |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 9000 |
ASRS Report | 96619 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac non adherence : far |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 200 vertical : 0 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Descending on approach into iah on the daisetta seven arrival the medium large transport on which I was the first officer just missed flying into a small small aircraft. Iah approach had pointed the small aircraft out to us a minute or two before as VFR traffic 11 O'clock, 10 miles (I think) 8300' altitude not verified. I immediately sighted the aircraft and told approach control we had the aircraft in sight and that the 8300' seemed accurate. I continued to look at the aircraft as we descended from 10000'. I asked the captain if he had the aircraft in sight. He said yes. As the aircraft converged, I again asked the captain if he had the traffic. He again said yes. It is tough to estimate distances up close--but at one-quarter mile--a few seconds after the second time I asked the captain if he had the other aircraft, I said 'well let's do something.' he said 'now hold your horses.' about five (5) seconds later he added power--slowed our descent--and banked slightly to the right. We would have let the aircraft without evading. We missed by about 200'. Later the captain said something about not realizing the other aircraft was approaching (it was headed northeast--we southwest even though I had specifically asked the controller who answered 'northeast.' the captain--an IOE check airmen took an unnecessary chance. If the other pilot had panicked we could have collided. The incident occurred due to the captain's frame of mind. I don't know what frame of mind allows someone to fly an airliner that close to another plane.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: NMAC ACR MLG AND GA SMA.
Narrative: DESCENDING ON APPROACH INTO IAH ON THE DAISETTA SEVEN ARRIVAL THE MLG ON WHICH I WAS THE FIRST OFFICER JUST MISSED FLYING INTO A SMALL SMA. IAH APPROACH HAD POINTED THE SMA OUT TO US A MINUTE OR TWO BEFORE AS VFR TFC 11 O'CLOCK, 10 MILES (I THINK) 8300' ALTITUDE NOT VERIFIED. I IMMEDIATELY SIGHTED THE ACFT AND TOLD APPROACH CONTROL WE HAD THE ACFT IN SIGHT AND THAT THE 8300' SEEMED ACCURATE. I CONTINUED TO LOOK AT THE ACFT AS WE DESCENDED FROM 10000'. I ASKED THE CAPTAIN IF HE HAD THE ACFT IN SIGHT. HE SAID YES. AS THE ACFT CONVERGED, I AGAIN ASKED THE CAPTAIN IF HE HAD THE TFC. HE AGAIN SAID YES. IT IS TOUGH TO ESTIMATE DISTANCES UP CLOSE--BUT AT ONE-QUARTER MILE--A FEW SECONDS AFTER THE SECOND TIME I ASKED THE CAPTAIN IF HE HAD THE OTHER ACFT, I SAID 'WELL LET'S DO SOMETHING.' HE SAID 'NOW HOLD YOUR HORSES.' ABOUT FIVE (5) SECONDS LATER HE ADDED POWER--SLOWED OUR DESCENT--AND BANKED SLIGHTLY TO THE RIGHT. WE WOULD HAVE LET THE ACFT WITHOUT EVADING. WE MISSED BY ABOUT 200'. LATER THE CAPTAIN SAID SOMETHING ABOUT NOT REALIZING THE OTHER ACFT WAS APPROACHING (IT WAS HEADED NE--WE SW EVEN THOUGH I HAD SPECIFICALLY ASKED THE CTLR WHO ANSWERED 'NE.' THE CAPTAIN--AN IOE CHECK AIRMEN TOOK AN UNNECESSARY CHANCE. IF THE OTHER PILOT HAD PANICKED WE COULD HAVE COLLIDED. THE INCIDENT OCCURRED DUE TO THE CAPTAIN'S FRAME OF MIND. I DON'T KNOW WHAT FRAME OF MIND ALLOWS SOMEONE TO FLY AN AIRLINER THAT CLOSE TO ANOTHER PLANE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.