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Attributes | |
ACN | 966810 |
Time | |
Date | 201108 |
Local Time Of Day | 0601-1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | ZZZ.Airport |
State Reference | US |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | Regional Jet 200 ER/LR (CRJ200) |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | Parked |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Function | First Officer Pilot Not Flying |
Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) |
Person 2 | |
Function | Captain Pilot Flying |
Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) |
Events | |
Anomaly | Deviation - Procedural Weight And Balance Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy Inflight Event / Encounter Fuel Issue |
Narrative:
I was the first officer on the flight. We took off approximately 800 pounds over mtow (maximum take off weight) limited by landing weight. We did not exceed maximum runway take off weight. On arrival into our destination I computed our landing weight to set the V speeds and found that we were about 500 pounds overweight. I pulled out the weight and balance sheet and only then noticed that we had exceeded the calculated mtow. We asked TRACON for vectors to burn additional fuel and configured flaps to 20 and landing gear down. We burned off the 500 pounds and landed at 46;800 pounds. No limitations were exceeded but we could have avoided vectors by catching the error on the weight manifest. I failed to catch the error. Contributing factors: we gained access to the flight deck late because the mechanics were fixing a caution light. We attempted to be as close to on time as we could. We were distracted by not having an APU and coordinating an engine start. We also refreshed our memories of flying with intermix operations as neither of us had done it. I knew we were under mtow for the airport because I had calculated a flex thrust setting. Usually an alternate airport is what causes you to be weight restricted; so I am in the habit of more closely looking at landing weight in those cases. This particular flight; the sky was clear at our destination so no alternate was needed. However; we were tankering fuel and this is what put us over the limit. If we had noticed the error; we would have needed to remove 4 passengers. Maybe fuel tankering procedures could be checked to make sure they are not putting us overweight. 800 pounds is pretty significant. I think all of our carrier's procedures are fine; I simply dropped the ball. Perhaps limiting fuel tankering could help prevent this in the future; because I have run into this issue before. I don't think it's anyone's goal to trade fuel for passengers when we don't have to. Plus; with the new regulations passed this week; the monetary compensation required to give bumped passengers has nearly doubled. My eyes have been opened to this issue. Usually the 900 will tell us if we are overweight using ACARS; but not the 200. Apparently I needed to be reminded of that and it won't happen in the future. Luckily; no limitations were exceeded.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A CRJ200 crew rushed before takeoff and during destination arrival preparations realized they were overweight for landing and also had taken off overweight.
Narrative: I was the First Officer on the flight. We took off approximately 800 LBS over MTOW (Maximum Take Off Weight) limited by Landing Weight. We did not exceed Maximum Runway Take Off Weight. On arrival into our destination I computed our landing weight to set the V Speeds and found that we were about 500 LBS overweight. I pulled out the Weight and Balance Sheet and only then noticed that we had exceeded the calculated MTOW. We asked TRACON for vectors to burn additional fuel and configured flaps to 20 and landing gear down. We burned off the 500 LBS and landed at 46;800 LBS. No limitations were exceeded but we could have avoided vectors by catching the error on the weight manifest. I failed to catch the error. Contributing factors: We gained access to the flight deck late because the mechanics were fixing a caution light. We attempted to be as close to on time as we could. We were distracted by not having an APU and coordinating an engine start. We also refreshed our memories of flying with intermix operations as neither of us had done it. I knew we were under MTOW for the airport because I had calculated a FLEX thrust setting. Usually an alternate airport is what causes you to be weight restricted; so I am in the habit of more closely looking at landing weight in those cases. This particular flight; the sky was clear at our destination so no alternate was needed. However; we were tankering fuel and this is what put us over the limit. If we had noticed the error; we would have needed to remove 4 passengers. Maybe fuel tankering procedures could be checked to make sure they are not putting us overweight. 800 LBS is pretty significant. I think all of our Carrier's procedures are fine; I simply dropped the ball. Perhaps limiting fuel tankering could help prevent this in the future; because I have run into this issue before. I don't think it's anyone's goal to trade fuel for passengers when we don't have to. Plus; with the new regulations passed this week; the monetary compensation required to give bumped passengers has nearly doubled. My eyes have been opened to this issue. Usually the 900 will tell us if we are overweight using ACARS; but not the 200. Apparently I needed to be reminded of that and it won't happen in the future. Luckily; no limitations were exceeded.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of April 2012 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.