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Attributes | |
ACN | 973645 |
Time | |
Date | 201110 |
Local Time Of Day | 0601-1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | ZZZ.Airport |
State Reference | US |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | Regional Jet 900 (CRJ900) |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | Descent |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Component | |
Aircraft Component | Aerofoil Ice System |
Person 1 | |
Function | Pilot Flying Captain |
Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) |
Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 11 Flight Crew Total 7500 Flight Crew Type 200 |
Person 2 | |
Function | Pilot Not Flying First Officer |
Qualification | Flight Crew Commercial |
Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 1 Flight Crew Total 3500 Flight Crew Type 2500 |
Events | |
Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types Aircraft Equipment Problem Critical Inflight Event / Encounter Weather / Turbulence |
Narrative:
The aircraft anti-ice system indicated a failure to us as we were descending. We ran the non-normal checklist. The checklist directed us to leave icing conditions immediately. We notified ATC we needed to descend and land with priority handling. We were getting light rime and mixed ice. Approach wanted to know why. We told them we lost our ability to de-ice the wings (per SOP). ATC accommodated us with a short approach and a quick landing. While we were getting vectored for the approach ATC asked for souls and fuel on board. At that point we were under the assumption ATC declared an emergency; we were issued an airfield rescue and fire fighting (arff) frequency. We did not declare an emergency. Nor did we believe the aircraft or passengers were in danger. However; we believed ATC had to move other aircraft off of the approach for us to land quickly. We discussed how we would advise arff on landing we would not need assistance. Therefore; we did not alert the flight attendants. This was a mechanical failure. This event could have been handled better by the crew. The mechanical problem may happen again. However; the crew may handle it better in the future. I suggest: 1. ATC announce they are declaring an emergency on us so the crew doesn't have to assume. 2. The crew should include the flight attendants even if there isn't any danger due to the presence of fire trucks. 3. Possible re-wording of the non-normal checklist to include a discretionary language to allow the crew to land normally if they are not getting ice accumulation in icing conditions.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A CRJ900's wing anti-ice system failed and automatically shutdown while in icing conditions at 11;000 FT. The QRH was complied with and ATC issued an expedited descent which allowed ice removal by 1;000 FT AGL.
Narrative: The aircraft anti-ice system indicated a failure to us as we were descending. We ran the Non-Normal Checklist. The Checklist directed us to leave icing conditions immediately. We notified ATC we needed to descend and land with priority handling. We were getting light rime and mixed ice. Approach wanted to know why. We told them we lost our ability to de-ice the wings (per SOP). ATC accommodated us with a short approach and a quick landing. While we were getting vectored for the approach ATC asked for souls and fuel on board. At that point we were under the assumption ATC declared an emergency; we were issued an Airfield Rescue and Fire Fighting (ARFF) frequency. We did not declare an emergency. Nor did we believe the aircraft or passengers were in danger. However; we believed ATC had to move other aircraft off of the approach for us to land quickly. We discussed how we would advise ARFF on landing we would not need assistance. Therefore; we did not alert the flight attendants. This was a mechanical failure. This event could have been handled better by the crew. The mechanical problem may happen again. However; the crew may handle it better in the future. I suggest: 1. ATC announce they are declaring an emergency on us so the crew doesn't have to assume. 2. The crew should include the flight attendants even if there isn't any danger due to the presence of fire trucks. 3. possible re-wording of the Non-Normal Checklist to include a discretionary language to allow the crew to LAND normally if they are not getting ice accumulation in icing conditions.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of April 2012 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.