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Attributes | |
ACN | 97684 |
Time | |
Date | 198811 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : mxf |
State Reference | AL |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 1400 msl bound upper : 1700 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : mxf tower : mxf |
Operator | other |
Make Model Name | Military Trainer |
Flight Phase | descent : approach other |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | other |
Make Model Name | Military Transport |
Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff climbout : initial |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : departure |
Qualification | controller : radar |
ASRS Report | 97684 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : handoff position |
Qualification | controller : radar |
ASRS Report | 97664 |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : required legal separation |
Independent Detector | other other : unspecified atc |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance none taken : insufficient time none taken : unable |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 1000 vertical : 400 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error Inter Facility Coordination Failure |
Situations | |
ATC Facility | procedure or policy : unspecified |
Narrative:
FAA montgomery RAPCON gave maxwell AFB tower a release for mlt Y off runway 33 which was the active runway. Maxwell tower called mlt Y rolling. When Y tagged my data person and I (north departure radio) noticed maxwell tower had turned an aircraft final to runway 15R in the way of Y's flight path. Mlt Y release was 'fly runway heading, maintain 20.' when Y came on frequency I issued traffic. 'Medium large transport Y traffic 12 O'clock 2 mi, opp direction working with tower, altitude indicates 1700, turn right immediately heading 020.' mlt Y made a comment, 'this ain't right.' Y was not issued traffic or departure by maxwell tower. Y made no other remarks concerning this situation and continued on with his IFR flight. I wrote this by memory as I have not had the opportunity to listen to the tape. As best we can tell MTR X which was Y's traffic was told to enter a 5 mi initial and turned in early and mlt Y was not issued traffic until we saw the situation and told them to break out the traffic over the shout line. But the above situation about MTR X instructions/traffic issuance is just hearsay and not fact. I feel the training program and maxwell tower needs to be reviewed. I don't believe they know what sep is. Supplemental information from acn 97664: I believe the situation could have been prevented if the tower controller would have instructed MTR X to hold on the downwind until the departure was clear of the airspace.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CLOSE PROX BETWEEN MIL TRAINER AND MIL TRANSPORT. OPERATONAL ERROR. SEE ALSO ACN NUMBERS 97664 AND 97684 REFERENCE MXF TWR TRAINING SITUATION.
Narrative: FAA MONTGOMERY RAPCON GAVE MAXWELL AFB TWR A RELEASE FOR MLT Y OFF RWY 33 WHICH WAS THE ACTIVE RWY. MAXWELL TWR CALLED MLT Y ROLLING. WHEN Y TAGGED MY DATA PERSON AND I (N DEP RADIO) NOTICED MAXWELL TWR HAD TURNED AN ACFT FINAL TO RWY 15R IN THE WAY OF Y'S FLT PATH. MLT Y RELEASE WAS 'FLY RWY HDG, MAINTAIN 20.' WHEN Y CAME ON FREQ I ISSUED TFC. 'MLG Y TFC 12 O'CLOCK 2 MI, OPP DIRECTION WORKING WITH TWR, ALT INDICATES 1700, TURN RIGHT IMMEDIATELY HDG 020.' MLT Y MADE A COMMENT, 'THIS AIN'T RIGHT.' Y WAS NOT ISSUED TFC OR DEP BY MAXWELL TWR. Y MADE NO OTHER REMARKS CONCERNING THIS SITUATION AND CONTINUED ON WITH HIS IFR FLT. I WROTE THIS BY MEMORY AS I HAVE NOT HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO LISTEN TO THE TAPE. AS BEST WE CAN TELL MTR X WHICH WAS Y'S TFC WAS TOLD TO ENTER A 5 MI INITIAL AND TURNED IN EARLY AND MLT Y WAS NOT ISSUED TFC UNTIL WE SAW THE SITUATION AND TOLD THEM TO BREAK OUT THE TFC OVER THE SHOUT LINE. BUT THE ABOVE SITUATION ABOUT MTR X INSTRUCTIONS/TFC ISSUANCE IS JUST HEARSAY AND NOT FACT. I FEEL THE TRNING PROGRAM AND MAXWELL TWR NEEDS TO BE REVIEWED. I DON'T BELIEVE THEY KNOW WHAT SEP IS. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 97664: I BELIEVE THE SITUATION COULD HAVE BEEN PREVENTED IF THE TWR CTLR WOULD HAVE INSTRUCTED MTR X TO HOLD ON THE DOWNWIND UNTIL THE DEP WAS CLR OF THE AIRSPACE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.