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Attributes | |
ACN | 98176 |
Time | |
Date | 198811 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : roc |
State Reference | NY |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 5200 msl bound upper : 6000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : roc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | enroute airway : v2 |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | other |
Make Model Name | Experimental |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : departure |
Qualification | controller : radar |
Experience | controller non radar : 4 controller radar : 3 |
ASRS Report | 98176 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : required legal separation |
Independent Detector | other other : unspecified atc |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance none taken : insufficient time none taken : unable |
Consequence | faa : investigated |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 9000 vertical : 800 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
Air carrier X departed roc climbing to 10000'. Navy Y was on overflt at 6000', syr, V2, roc, V119, elz, (this is not a normal route of flight). The pilot of air carrier X never checked in, although local control, switched him at 20. I initiated the first call and the pilot responded by saying he was leaving 5300'. I turned aircraft Y left to 090 degree to ensure sep. I should have told local control to have air carrier X maintain 5000' before he departed, and the pilot should have checked in on his own, much sooner.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: LESS THAN STANDARD SEPARATION BETWEEN ACR AND MIL ACFT. OPERATIONAL ERROR.
Narrative: ACR X DEPARTED ROC CLBING TO 10000'. NAVY Y WAS ON OVERFLT AT 6000', SYR, V2, ROC, V119, ELZ, (THIS IS NOT A NORMAL ROUTE OF FLT). THE PLT OF ACR X NEVER CHKED IN, ALTHOUGH LC, SWITCHED HIM AT 20. I INITIATED THE FIRST CALL AND THE PLT RESPONDED BY SAYING HE WAS LEAVING 5300'. I TURNED ACFT Y L TO 090 DEG TO ENSURE SEP. I SHOULD HAVE TOLD LC TO HAVE ACR X MAINTAIN 5000' BEFORE HE DEPARTED, AND THE PLT SHOULD HAVE CHKED IN ON HIS OWN, MUCH SOONER.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.