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Attributes | |
ACN | 98172 |
Time | |
Date | 198811 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : dfw |
State Reference | TX |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 1500 agl bound upper : 1500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Flight Plan | None |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | other |
Make Model Name | Helicopter |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 250 flight time total : 12000 flight time type : 40 |
ASRS Report | 98172 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : military |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : military |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 750 vertical : 100 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
While cruising at 1500' AGL, encountered military helicopter opp direction. Passed latitude about 3000' sep at which time he reversed course. I reversed course and we passed about 500-1000' apart. He stopped at destination airport to report to me he thought we were within 100' of each other. I have been trained to judge distance on cubic corporation acmi ranges, this instance points out a near miss problem in that how close airport pass is a judgement problem. We regularly fly in the ATC system with 500-1000' positive sep which is close. One pilot's 'close' near miss is another's everyday occurrence in the ATC system.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CLOSE PROX GA-SMA BIPLANE MIL HELICOPTER.
Narrative: WHILE CRUISING AT 1500' AGL, ENCOUNTERED MIL HELI OPP DIRECTION. PASSED LAT ABOUT 3000' SEP AT WHICH TIME HE REVERSED COURSE. I REVERSED COURSE AND WE PASSED ABOUT 500-1000' APART. HE STOPPED AT DEST ARPT TO RPT TO ME HE THOUGHT WE WERE WITHIN 100' OF EACH OTHER. I HAVE BEEN TRAINED TO JUDGE DISTANCE ON CUBIC CORPORATION ACMI RANGES, THIS INSTANCE POINTS OUT A NEAR MISS PROB IN THAT HOW CLOSE ARPT PASS IS A JUDGEMENT PROB. WE REGULARLY FLY IN THE ATC SYS WITH 500-1000' POSITIVE SEP WHICH IS CLOSE. ONE PLT'S 'CLOSE' NEAR MISS IS ANOTHER'S EVERYDAY OCCURRENCE IN THE ATC SYS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.