International flight flown with 3 man crew exceeded flight time limitations.

Attributes
ACN	98250
Time
Date	198811
Place
Locale Reference	airport : rms
State Reference	FO
Altitude	agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0
Environment
Flight Conditions	IMC
Light	Night
Aircraft 1
Operator	other
Make Model Name	Heavy Transport, Low Wing, 4 Turbojet Eng
Flight Phase	ground : preflight
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	Other
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : atp pilot : cfi pilot : flight engineer
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 70 flight time total : 10000 flight time type : 1000
ASRS Report	98250
Person 2
Affiliation	Other
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp
Events
Anomaly	non adherence : far other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	none taken : anomaly accepted
Consequence	Other
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation

Narrative:

Extended flight hours west/O proper crew rest. Departure XA50Z on 11/tue/88 landing XO28Z on 11/wed/88. Company check airman aboard, I explained need for rest. Company pressured crew to continue even though crew fatigued. Flight crews need clearly defined flight limits. Callback conversation with reporter revealed following information. The flight is normally scheduled with a 4 man crew. They were one first officer short. The flight stopped at keflavik and goose bay. No rest or crew relief were provided. One of the capts was a management type and he coerced the rest of the crew to continue the flight. Far's were ignored entirely.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: INTERNATIONAL FLT FLOWN WITH 3 MAN CREW EXCEEDED FLT TIME LIMITATIONS.

Narrative: EXTENDED FLT HOURS W/O PROPER CREW REST. DEP XA50Z ON 11/TUE/88 LNDG XO28Z ON 11/WED/88. COMPANY CHECK AIRMAN ABOARD, I EXPLAINED NEED FOR REST. COMPANY PRESSURED CREW TO CONTINUE EVEN THOUGH CREW FATIGUED. FLT CREWS NEED CLEARLY DEFINED FLT LIMITS. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED FOLLOWING INFO. THE FLT IS NORMALLY SCHEDULED WITH A 4 MAN CREW. THEY WERE ONE F/O SHORT. THE FLT STOPPED AT KEFLAVIK AND GOOSE BAY. NO REST OR CREW RELIEF WERE PROVIDED. ONE OF THE CAPTS WAS A MGMNT TYPE AND HE COERCED THE REST OF THE CREW TO CONTINUE THE FLT. FAR'S WERE IGNORED ENTIRELY.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.