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Attributes | |
ACN | 990230 |
Time | |
Date | 201201 |
Local Time Of Day | 1801-2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | ZZZ.Airport |
State Reference | US |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | Regional Jet 700 ER/LR (CRJ700) |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | Taxi |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Function | Captain Pilot Flying |
Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) |
Person 2 | |
Function | Pilot Not Flying First Officer |
Qualification | Flight Crew Commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | Aircraft Equipment Problem Less Severe Deviation - Procedural Maintenance Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy Deviation - Procedural MEL |
Narrative:
On the preceding flight that we flew in the same aircraft; we had an MEL requiring the APU to remain on and running throughout the flight; which we did. En route; the APU auto shutdown due to an overspeed condition. We followed the QRH procedures and landed without incident. I then wrote up the new maintenance problem with the APU and maintenance came out to the gate to take care of it. We were scheduled to continue with the same aircraft. When I printed out the paperwork for the flight; I was surprised to see the new MEL in addition to the old MEL since the new MEL required the APU to not be operated at all and for the APU inlet door to be secured closed; while the original MEL stated the APU must be running for flight. Furthermore; when we printed out the performance data; the remarks section of the performance data stated the APU must be running. I called maintenance and told them of my predicament with the contradicting MEL's. I was told that the newest APU MEL supersedes the original one and that everything was good to go!I said if that's the case; then why am I getting this APU must be running remark on the performance data? If the second APU MEL supersedes the first; then why don't they remove the first MEL to avoid confusion? I was then told that since they haven't corrected the first APU MEL; they can't just remove it! They also pointed out that the performance degradation for the extra fuel burned while running the APU for the entire flight was now removed; which it was; so this information along with maintenance telling me everything was correct ultimately lead me to believe I was legal to depart. Having said that; I was never truly comfortable with the conflicting MEL's and I stated so to maintenance; but since maintenance is not my field of expertise; I believed what maintenance was telling me to be valid. I asked my first officer if he was comfortable with going with the conflicting MEL's and like me he wasn't 100% comfortable; but also felt maintenance had adequately explained and handled the situation enough for us to continue. We thought that at the time; although we weren't 100% sure the maintenance people were correct; that the problem was taken care of and we were legal to depart. I was only informed today that our company self disclosed on this issue. From my perspective; at the time of the actual event; I was of the opinion that the problem was taken care of and that we were legal to depart. As for what I learned today of the self-disclosure of the company; apparently they discovered what was done was in error and are taking the steps to rectify the problem. I know the company and maintenance expect a certain level of skill; knowledge; and understanding of systems for us pilots to do our jobs to the highest of our abilities. We; as pilots; expect the same from our counterparts in other departments including maintenance. They typically don't do our job and I don't pretend to be able to do their job. That being said; we sometimes have to rely on their knowledge in areas that I/we are not fluent in and in this case they were wrong. We all can be just a little bit better in what we do and in our knowledge and understanding of systems and interrelated MEL's to hopefully avoid this particular problem in the future.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CRJ700 flight crew reports being dispatched with an MEL for an engine driven generator inoperative and the APU running. The APU fails enroute and the flight lands safely at destination. Maintenance then MEL's the APU and explains the contradicting MEL requirements by stating that the newest APU MEL supersedes the original one and that everything was good to go. The crew accepts this reasoning and departs.
Narrative: On the preceding flight that we flew in the same aircraft; we had an MEL requiring the APU to remain on and running throughout the flight; which we did. En route; the APU auto shutdown due to an overspeed condition. We followed the QRH procedures and landed without incident. I then wrote up the new maintenance problem with the APU and Maintenance came out to the gate to take care of it. We were scheduled to continue with the same aircraft. When I printed out the paperwork for the flight; I was surprised to see the new MEL in addition to the old MEL since the new MEL required the APU to not be operated at all and for the APU inlet door to be secured closed; while the original MEL stated the APU must be running for flight. Furthermore; when we printed out the performance data; the remarks section of the performance data stated the APU must be running. I called Maintenance and told them of my predicament with the contradicting MEL's. I was told that the newest APU MEL supersedes the original one and that everything was good to go!I said if that's the case; then why am I getting this APU must be running remark on the performance data? If the second APU MEL supersedes the first; then why don't they remove the first MEL to avoid confusion? I was then told that since they haven't corrected the first APU MEL; they can't just remove it! They also pointed out that the performance degradation for the extra fuel burned while running the APU for the entire flight was now removed; which it was; so this information along with Maintenance telling me everything was correct ultimately lead me to believe I was legal to depart. Having said that; I was never truly comfortable with the conflicting MEL's and I stated so to Maintenance; but since maintenance is not my field of expertise; I believed what Maintenance was telling me to be valid. I asked my First Officer if he was comfortable with going with the conflicting MEL's and like me he wasn't 100% comfortable; but also felt Maintenance had adequately explained and handled the situation enough for us to continue. We thought that at the time; although we weren't 100% sure the Maintenance people were correct; that the problem was taken care of and we were legal to depart. I was only informed today that our company self disclosed on this issue. From my perspective; at the time of the actual event; I was of the opinion that the problem was taken care of and that we were legal to depart. As for what I learned today of the self-disclosure of the company; apparently they discovered what was done was in error and are taking the steps to rectify the problem. I know the Company and Maintenance expect a certain level of skill; knowledge; and understanding of systems for us pilots to do our jobs to the highest of our abilities. We; as pilots; expect the same from our counterparts in other departments including Maintenance. They typically don't do our job and I don't pretend to be able to do their job. That being said; we sometimes have to rely on their knowledge in areas that I/we are not fluent in and in this case they were wrong. We all can be just a little bit better in what we do and in our knowledge and understanding of systems and interrelated MEL's to hopefully avoid this particular problem in the future.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2013 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.