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Attributes | |
ACN | 995542 |
Time | |
Date | 201202 |
Local Time Of Day | 1201-1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | ZZZ.ARTCC |
State Reference | US |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | Eagle (F-15) |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | Climb |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Flight Phase | Climb |
Person 1 | |
Function | Enroute |
Qualification | Air Traffic Control Fully Certified |
Events | |
Anomaly | Aircraft Equipment Problem Critical Deviation - Altitude Excursion From Assigned Altitude Deviation - Speed All Types |
Narrative:
An F15 [was] climbing from FL410 to FL450. Told me he could not hold altitude. I re-cleared him to FL390. He descended through FL390 and kept descending without telling me. I asked him his altitude. He told me he couldn't maintain altitude. I asked him what he needed to descend to. He said FL250. He also lost all speed of the aircraft. Another aircraft was initially 10 miles behind him at 450 KTS climbing up to FL430. The second aircraft was overtaking the first rapidly. I turned the aircraft 90 degrees to the right to try and keep 5 mile separation. They passed with about 4 miles of separation. All this happened with heavy traffic volume and high complexity due to weather. If I hadn't been so busy I could have quizzed the F15 more about the problem. This would have led to a quicker realization of the potential problem of loss of separation due to loss of altitude and loss of speed. Or if the F15 had told me how bad the problem was; or declared an emergency; I would have turned the aircraft sooner. Military aircraft should declare an emergency when they cannot hold altitude and/or maintain speed.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: Enroute Controller described a loss of separation event when a military fighter initiated an unexpected descent due to aircraft problems without informing ATC of details. The reporter indicated that the aircraft should have declared an emergency.
Narrative: An F15 [was] climbing from FL410 to FL450. Told me he could not hold altitude. I re-cleared him to FL390. He descended through FL390 and kept descending without telling me. I asked him his altitude. He told me he couldn't maintain altitude. I asked him what he needed to descend to. He said FL250. He also lost all speed of the aircraft. Another aircraft was initially 10 miles behind him at 450 KTS climbing up to FL430. The second aircraft was overtaking the first rapidly. I turned the aircraft 90 degrees to the right to try and keep 5 mile separation. They passed with about 4 miles of separation. All this happened with heavy traffic volume and high complexity due to weather. If I hadn't been so busy I could have quizzed the F15 more about the problem. This would have led to a quicker realization of the potential problem of loss of separation due to loss of altitude and loss of speed. Or if the F15 had told me how bad the problem was; or declared an emergency; I would have turned the aircraft sooner. Military aircraft should declare an emergency when they cannot hold altitude and/or maintain speed.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2013 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.