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Attributes | |
ACN | 995544 |
Time | |
Date | 201202 |
Local Time Of Day | 1801-2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | HCF.TRACON |
State Reference | HI |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | Orion (P3) |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | Cruise |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Component | |
Aircraft Component | Air/Ground Communication |
Person 1 | |
Qualification | Air Traffic Control Fully Certified |
Events | |
Anomaly | Aircraft Equipment Problem Less Severe Deviation - Track / Heading All Types |
Narrative:
Accepted hand off on a P-3 from sector R3. Workload was becoming heavy during inbound rush from mainland. The P-3 came up on frequency no problems with communications; after clear of traffic climbed him to altitude and observed him level FL270. I then noticed his transponder was becoming intermittent and was getting a primary only. I advised him to recycle transponder and it came up again no problem. This was the last transmission I recall hearing. I tried my back up frequencies as well. I tried getting confirmation that he could hear me using 'ident' however his transponder had become to intermittent as I never once witnessed an 'ident'. Other aircraft relayed for me that he had received the necessary information to transition oceanic and I decided to terminate radar with him thru another aircraft and the P-3 accepted the frequency change thru another aircraft. I was becoming very busy and I noticed his target deviate from his flight plan immediately after apack. I was very busy on the radar so I instructed my d-side to coordinate with the necessary facilities and advised management. Other aircraft began to tell me that the P-3 was trying to call me and thru the other aircraft; I advised the P-3 that I showed him off course and advised them of the routing they should be on. The other aircraft advised that the P-3 copied and I witnessed the aircraft changing their course back toward apack. I advised the other aircraft to tell them to communicate with arinc and to change frequencies as I was too busy. I do not know what caused the aircraft to deviate from their course and I did not have time to inquire about it either thru other aircraft or thru arinc which did have communication with the P-3. Recommendation; military aircraft in general have terrible radios and equipment; especially the P-3s. I recommend new flight standards for military communications and transponder equipment immediately as it has caused many dangerous situations almost daily; or perhaps increased coverage for our own radio transmitters and receivers.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: HCF Controller described a loss of communications event with a military aircraft; expressing concern regarding military aircraft and their inoperable communications equipment; many of these aircraft having been in operation for a very long time.
Narrative: Accepted hand off on a P-3 from sector R3. Workload was becoming heavy during inbound rush from mainland. The P-3 came up on frequency no problems with communications; after clear of traffic climbed him to altitude and observed him level FL270. I then noticed his transponder was becoming intermittent and was getting a primary only. I advised him to recycle transponder and it came up again no problem. This was the last transmission I recall hearing. I tried my back up frequencies as well. I tried getting confirmation that he could hear me using 'ident' however his transponder had become to intermittent as I never once witnessed an 'ident'. Other aircraft relayed for me that he had received the necessary information to transition oceanic and I decided to terminate RADAR with him thru another aircraft and the P-3 accepted the frequency change thru another aircraft. I was becoming very busy and I noticed his target deviate from his flight plan immediately after APACK. I was very busy on the RADAR so I instructed my D-Side to coordinate with the necessary facilities and advised management. Other aircraft began to tell me that the P-3 was trying to call me and thru the other aircraft; I advised the P-3 that I showed him off course and advised them of the routing they should be on. The other aircraft advised that the P-3 copied and I witnessed the aircraft changing their course back toward APACK. I advised the other aircraft to tell them to communicate with ARINC and to change frequencies as I was too busy. I do not know what caused the aircraft to deviate from their course and I did not have time to inquire about it either thru other aircraft or thru ARINC which did have communication with the P-3. Recommendation; military aircraft in general have terrible radios and equipment; especially the P-3s. I recommend new flight standards for military communications and transponder equipment immediately as it has caused many dangerous situations almost daily; or perhaps increased coverage for our own radio transmitters and receivers.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2013 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.