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Attributes | |
ACN | 99671 |
Time | |
Date | 198812 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : mrb airport : iad |
State Reference | WV |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 11000 msl bound upper : 11000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : iad |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Route In Use | arrival star : star |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 8000 flight time type : 3000 |
ASRS Report | 99671 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 210 flight time total : 7200 flight time type : 210 |
ASRS Report | 99713 |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : crossing restriction not met non adherence : clearance other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Flying from pit to iad, cleared the armel 1 STAR. First time into iad. During takeoff and climb manual slid closed. When I reopened it I was turned to the armel 1 STAR into dca. Didn't realize I was flying the incorrect STAR until cleared to cross the mumsy fix at 11000'. After returning the navigation's and getting my head out of my butt, I started down at maximum airspeed--4000-6000 FPM. Dulles approach queried us as to whether we could make the restriction, and realizing we would be close at best, gave us a vector of the STAR. Easy trap to fall into with both dca and iad having co-named stars. Supplemental information from acn 99713: suggestion: although the NOTAMS state that the arrs will be renamed, I suggest a more timely change of the 2 arrs be made.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ALT CROSSING RESTRICTION MISSED AT MUMSY INTERSECTION.
Narrative: FLYING FROM PIT TO IAD, CLRED THE ARMEL 1 STAR. FIRST TIME INTO IAD. DURING TKOF AND CLB MANUAL SLID CLOSED. WHEN I REOPENED IT I WAS TURNED TO THE ARMEL 1 STAR INTO DCA. DIDN'T REALIZE I WAS FLYING THE INCORRECT STAR UNTIL CLRED TO CROSS THE MUMSY FIX AT 11000'. AFTER RETURNING THE NAV'S AND GETTING MY HEAD OUT OF MY BUTT, I STARTED DOWN AT MAX AIRSPD--4000-6000 FPM. DULLES APCH QUERIED US AS TO WHETHER WE COULD MAKE THE RESTRICTION, AND REALIZING WE WOULD BE CLOSE AT BEST, GAVE US A VECTOR OF THE STAR. EASY TRAP TO FALL INTO WITH BOTH DCA AND IAD HAVING CO-NAMED STARS. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 99713: SUGGESTION: ALTHOUGH THE NOTAMS STATE THAT THE ARRS WILL BE RENAMED, I SUGGEST A MORE TIMELY CHANGE OF THE 2 ARRS BE MADE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.