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Attributes | |
ACN | 99991 |
Time | |
Date | 198812 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : ssi |
State Reference | GA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 35000 msl bound upper : 35000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zjx |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Route In Use | enroute : direct enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : atp pilot : commercial pilot : flight engineer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 7100 flight time type : 900 |
ASRS Report | 99991 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : far |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Over charleston, sc, we received a new clearance from ZJX to proceed directly to ormond beach VOR. Checking the map I could see we would stay within the 50 NM offshore requirement for aircraft not approved for overwater flight. When abeam savannah VOR we received clearance to proceed RNAV directly to surfing for the surfn 5 to pbi. We accepted the clearance noting we would be very close to our 50 mi limit. I dialed in ssi VOR and the nearest distance to it we came was 69 mi. We figured our error was due to having to overlay 2 high altitude charts together and drawing the best line we could in turbulence that came up with a legal 50 mi.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR MLG ACCEPTED ARTCC ROUTE MORE THAN 50 NM OFF SHORE WITHOUT REQUIRED EQUIPMENT FOR EXTENDED OVER WATER OPERATION.
Narrative: OVER CHARLESTON, SC, WE RECEIVED A NEW CLRNC FROM ZJX TO PROCEED DIRECTLY TO ORMOND BEACH VOR. CHKING THE MAP I COULD SEE WE WOULD STAY WITHIN THE 50 NM OFFSHORE REQUIREMENT FOR ACFT NOT APPROVED FOR OVERWATER FLT. WHEN ABEAM SAVANNAH VOR WE RECEIVED CLRNC TO PROCEED RNAV DIRECTLY TO SURFING FOR THE SURFN 5 TO PBI. WE ACCEPTED THE CLRNC NOTING WE WOULD BE VERY CLOSE TO OUR 50 MI LIMIT. I DIALED IN SSI VOR AND THE NEAREST DISTANCE TO IT WE CAME WAS 69 MI. WE FIGURED OUR ERROR WAS DUE TO HAVING TO OVERLAY 2 HIGH ALT CHARTS TOGETHER AND DRAWING THE BEST LINE WE COULD IN TURB THAT CAME UP WITH A LEGAL 50 MI.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.