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Attributes | |
ACN | 100841 |
Time | |
Date | 198812 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : msy |
State Reference | LA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 1000 msl bound upper : 2000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : msy |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : straight in |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 13000 flight time type : 250 |
ASRS Report | 100841 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 40 flight time total : 7800 flight time type : 40 |
ASRS Report | 100838 |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | other other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Approach into msy, was given WX at airport followed by statement: 'all airplanes ahead of you have reported breaking out at about minimums.' we had been on duty 13 hours and fog at airport was a local condition as WX was VFR everywhere else. It had been a clear night all the way from chicago. All the above lulled me into planning for a successful approach rather than checking actual minimums. As I am relatively new on the airplane I was more concerned that the approach was conducted properly than with the actual minimums. We got up for a CAT ii approach even though the WX was above CAT ii minimums. We were on the approach inside the marker when it dawned on me that WX was above CAT ii, but below CAT I, and that runway 28 at msy is only a CAT I runway. RVR was reported as 1800 and we needed 2400. We executed a missed approach from that point and proceeded to our alternate. Another factor that contributed to my desire to land was that we did not have much extra fuel. What finally turned on the light in my head was another carrier refusing the same approach. Another fact that amazes me is that I am not yet CAT ii qualified on this airplane, yet I was thinking CAT ii all the way. I guess that is because I have been CAT ii qualified for yrs as a first officer and in training all stress is to CAT ii minimums. CAT I minimums just never entered my mind. Missed approach was started at about 1200' AGL.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR MLG STARTED APCH WITH WX BELOW MINIMUMS. APCH ABANDONED.
Narrative: APCH INTO MSY, WAS GIVEN WX AT ARPT FOLLOWED BY STATEMENT: 'ALL AIRPLANES AHEAD OF YOU HAVE RPTED BREAKING OUT AT ABOUT MINIMUMS.' WE HAD BEEN ON DUTY 13 HRS AND FOG AT ARPT WAS A LCL CONDITION AS WX WAS VFR EVERYWHERE ELSE. IT HAD BEEN A CLEAR NIGHT ALL THE WAY FROM CHICAGO. ALL THE ABOVE LULLED ME INTO PLANNING FOR A SUCCESSFUL APCH RATHER THAN CHKING ACTUAL MINIMUMS. AS I AM RELATIVELY NEW ON THE AIRPLANE I WAS MORE CONCERNED THAT THE APCH WAS CONDUCTED PROPERLY THAN WITH THE ACTUAL MINIMUMS. WE GOT UP FOR A CAT II APCH EVEN THOUGH THE WX WAS ABOVE CAT II MINIMUMS. WE WERE ON THE APCH INSIDE THE MARKER WHEN IT DAWNED ON ME THAT WX WAS ABOVE CAT II, BUT BELOW CAT I, AND THAT RWY 28 AT MSY IS ONLY A CAT I RWY. RVR WAS RPTED AS 1800 AND WE NEEDED 2400. WE EXECUTED A MISSED APCH FROM THAT POINT AND PROCEEDED TO OUR ALTERNATE. ANOTHER FACTOR THAT CONTRIBUTED TO MY DESIRE TO LAND WAS THAT WE DID NOT HAVE MUCH EXTRA FUEL. WHAT FINALLY TURNED ON THE LIGHT IN MY HEAD WAS ANOTHER CARRIER REFUSING THE SAME APCH. ANOTHER FACT THAT AMAZES ME IS THAT I AM NOT YET CAT II QUALIFIED ON THIS AIRPLANE, YET I WAS THINKING CAT II ALL THE WAY. I GUESS THAT IS BECAUSE I HAVE BEEN CAT II QUALIFIED FOR YRS AS A F/O AND IN TRNING ALL STRESS IS TO CAT II MINIMUMS. CAT I MINIMUMS JUST NEVER ENTERED MY MIND. MISSED APCH WAS STARTED AT ABOUT 1200' AGL.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.