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Attributes | |
ACN | 101432 |
Time | |
Date | 198901 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : ito |
State Reference | HI |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 1000 msl bound upper : 1000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : ito |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | descent : approach descent other |
Route In Use | arrival star : star |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | arrival star : star |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 6000 flight time type : 150 |
ASRS Report | 101432 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe inflight encounter : weather other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
On VOR DME a approach to ito captain flying (19 years interisland experience) I spotted the field (6 years interisland experience) and captain turned east to downwind. When approach end at off of wing turned base. Captain continued turn, to final. On turn from base to final, I transitioned inside to go before landing check. When I looked back outside field no longer in site. At this time ito approach asked if we had the field. I said no and called on the miss. We commenced a right turn toward the airport (terrain to the left) and started our climb. (The final approach course if 259 degrees. The VOR DME a approach calls for a left turn from map at 1 DME and outbound on ito 079 degree radial. The ILS runway 26 approach calls for a right turn. Both approachs take you away from terrain south of the field.) passing through about 300 degree ATC advised left turn to 090 degree we asked to clarify (this time passing 330 degree) ATC became excited. Company aircraft at 1800' at 7 DME inbound on 145 degree on the approach when we missed. Our miss aimed us at them. Controller advised company to climb to 3000 immediately and for us to continue turn to 090 degree and maintain 1500'. We were going through 1800 so we descended back to 1500 ATC then advised company to continue 090 degree and climb 1800' for vectors to ILS. Then he asked to hold on so he could catch his breath. Should of had missed approach instructions prior to circle if they were to be nonstandard. Conflict distance unknown. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following: reporter states standard procedure when aircraft is on circling approach is a turn toward airport and then right turn out, away from terrain. Major problem here was ATC had company plane too close behind on approach. Controller fully expected reporter's aircraft to land as another carrier had just landed moments before. Second aircraft heard 'excitement' in controllers voice and missed approach communication so immediately requested ILS approach.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: WRONG DIRECTION TURN ON MAP.
Narrative: ON VOR DME A APCH TO ITO CAPTAIN FLYING (19 YEARS INTERISLAND EXPERIENCE) I SPOTTED THE FIELD (6 YEARS INTERISLAND EXPERIENCE) AND CAPTAIN TURNED EAST TO DOWNWIND. WHEN APCH END AT OFF OF WING TURNED BASE. CAPTAIN CONTINUED TURN, TO FINAL. ON TURN FROM BASE TO FINAL, I TRANSITIONED INSIDE TO GO BEFORE LANDING CHECK. WHEN I LOOKED BACK OUTSIDE FIELD NO LONGER IN SITE. AT THIS TIME ITO APCH ASKED IF WE HAD THE FIELD. I SAID NO AND CALLED ON THE MISS. WE COMMENCED A RIGHT TURN TOWARD THE ARPT (TERRAIN TO THE LEFT) AND STARTED OUR CLIMB. (THE FINAL APCH COURSE IF 259 DEGS. THE VOR DME A APCH CALLS FOR A LEFT TURN FROM MAP AT 1 DME AND OUTBOUND ON ITO 079 DEG RADIAL. THE ILS RWY 26 APCH CALLS FOR A RIGHT TURN. BOTH APCHS TAKE YOU AWAY FROM TERRAIN S OF THE FIELD.) PASSING THROUGH ABOUT 300 DEG ATC ADVISED LEFT TURN TO 090 DEG WE ASKED TO CLARIFY (THIS TIME PASSING 330 DEG) ATC BECAME EXCITED. COMPANY ACFT AT 1800' AT 7 DME INBND ON 145 DEG ON THE APCH WHEN WE MISSED. OUR MISS AIMED US AT THEM. CTLR ADVISED COMPANY TO CLB TO 3000 IMMEDIATELY AND FOR US TO CONTINUE TURN TO 090 DEG AND MAINTAIN 1500'. WE WERE GOING THROUGH 1800 SO WE DSNDED BACK TO 1500 ATC THEN ADVISED COMPANY TO CONTINUE 090 DEG AND CLB 1800' FOR VECTORS TO ILS. THEN HE ASKED TO HOLD ON SO HE COULD CATCH HIS BREATH. SHOULD OF HAD MISSED APCH INSTRUCTIONS PRIOR TO CIRCLE IF THEY WERE TO BE NONSTANDARD. CONFLICT DISTANCE UNKNOWN. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH REPORTER REVEALED THE FOLLOWING: RPTR STATES STANDARD PROC WHEN ACFT IS ON CIRCLING APCH IS A TURN TOWARD ARPT AND THEN RIGHT TURN OUT, AWAY FROM TERRAIN. MAJOR PROBLEM HERE WAS ATC HAD COMPANY PLANE TOO CLOSE BEHIND ON APCH. CTLR FULLY EXPECTED RPTR'S ACFT TO LAND AS ANOTHER CARRIER HAD JUST LANDED MOMENTS BEFORE. SECOND ACFT HEARD 'EXCITEMENT' IN CTLRS VOICE AND MISSED APCH COMMUNICATION SO IMMEDIATELY REQUESTED ILS APCH.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.