Narrative:

We took off from greeley at XA30 for a flight to bjc (44 mi away) an air carrier training flight was on the ILS for runway 9. He went missed and reported right turn southbound. We also were climbing out southbound after takeoff. It is difficult to estimate the actual distances involved in the dark. As we climbed out we were to climb out to the east of the crosswind leg and also the upwind leg. The air carrier aircraft re-entered upwind and I do not think he noticed us, or thought we were further away than we were. I saw the aircraft heading east on the upwind as I climbed south. I went to a shallow dive and turn out--so did the other aircraft. End of occurrence. Greeley is uncontrolled and there are many similar occurrences. There can be 13 aircraft in the pattern at any one time and frequently 3-6 on final. This is a classic airport where one day something will happen. It would be worthy of a study to view the potential problems here. As an FAA accident prevention counselor, I feel there is a need for a controled environment. There are 3 flight schools with over 400 full time students--a jfk for small aircraft's. The field is also used by air carrier to train on because it has ILS/VOR and NDB approachs, plus some corp activity. It is not uncommon for the heavier traffic to have to go around because the training traffic is impatient. The key word is being impatient. All pilots need to be shown patience is essential. We do not need people holding on the runway and requesting traffic to land over the top. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following: confirmed small transport took off on runway 9 and through unicom was to go straight out until beyond upwind crossing distance of pattern before turning south. Reporter does not think mdt noticed the small transport crossing under them. No formal near midair collision report made and both aircraft aware of each other.

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Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: CONFLICT BETWEEN DEPARTING GA-SMT AND ACR-MDT ON MISSED APCH.

Narrative: WE TOOK OFF FROM GREELEY AT XA30 FOR A FLT TO BJC (44 MI AWAY) AN ACR TRNING FLT WAS ON THE ILS FOR RWY 9. HE WENT MISSED AND RPTED RIGHT TURN SBND. WE ALSO WERE CLBING OUT SBND AFTER TKOF. IT IS DIFFICULT TO ESTIMATE THE ACTUAL DISTANCES INVOLVED IN THE DARK. AS WE CLBED OUT WE WERE TO CLB OUT TO THE E OF THE XWIND LEG AND ALSO THE UPWIND LEG. THE ACR ACFT RE-ENTERED UPWIND AND I DO NOT THINK HE NOTICED US, OR THOUGHT WE WERE FURTHER AWAY THAN WE WERE. I SAW THE ACFT HDG E ON THE UPWIND AS I CLBED S. I WENT TO A SHALLOW DIVE AND TURN OUT--SO DID THE OTHER ACFT. END OF OCCURRENCE. GREELEY IS UNCTLED AND THERE ARE MANY SIMILAR OCCURRENCES. THERE CAN BE 13 ACFT IN THE PATTERN AT ANY ONE TIME AND FREQUENTLY 3-6 ON FINAL. THIS IS A CLASSIC ARPT WHERE ONE DAY SOMETHING WILL HAPPEN. IT WOULD BE WORTHY OF A STUDY TO VIEW THE POTENTIAL PROBS HERE. AS AN FAA ACCIDENT PREVENTION COUNSELOR, I FEEL THERE IS A NEED FOR A CTLED ENVIRONMENT. THERE ARE 3 FLT SCHOOLS WITH OVER 400 FULL TIME STUDENTS--A JFK FOR SMA'S. THE FIELD IS ALSO USED BY ACR TO TRAIN ON BECAUSE IT HAS ILS/VOR AND NDB APCHS, PLUS SOME CORP ACTIVITY. IT IS NOT UNCOMMON FOR THE HEAVIER TFC TO HAVE TO GO AROUND BECAUSE THE TRNING TFC IS IMPATIENT. THE KEY WORD IS BEING IMPATIENT. ALL PLTS NEED TO BE SHOWN PATIENCE IS ESSENTIAL. WE DO NOT NEED PEOPLE HOLDING ON THE RWY AND REQUESTING TFC TO LAND OVER THE TOP. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING: CONFIRMED SMT TOOK OFF ON RWY 9 AND THROUGH UNICOM WAS TO GO STRAIGHT OUT UNTIL BEYOND UPWIND XING DISTANCE OF PATTERN BEFORE TURNING S. RPTR DOES NOT THINK MDT NOTICED THE SMT XING UNDER THEM. NO FORMAL NMAC RPT MADE AND BOTH ACFT AWARE OF EACH OTHER.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.