Widebody transport failed to comply with speed restriction assigned by ATC.

Attributes
ACN	102148
Time
Date	198901
Day	Mon
Local Time Of Day	0601 To 1200
Place
Locale Reference	atc facility : lax
State Reference	CA
Altitude	msl bound lower : 10000 msl bound upper : 10000
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tracon : lax tower : lax
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Widebody, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng
Navigation In Use	Other
Flight Phase	cruise other
Route In Use	arrival : profile descent arrival other arrival star : star
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : cfi pilot : commercial pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 6000 flight time type : 1000
ASRS Report	102148
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp
Events
Anomaly	non adherence : clearance other anomaly
Independent Detector	other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	none taken : anomaly accepted
Consequence	Other
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation

Narrative:

This occurred on the civit arrival into los angeles. At the 34 DME point, the arrival requires 10,000', and 250 KTS. The captain was flying this leg. I noticed that he was a bit high in starting his descent, but I knew that with speed brakes, he could make all the restrictions. For some reason, he chose not to use them, and when he hit this point, he was at 10,000', but going 290 KTS. I warned him about this more than once prior to arriving at this fix, but he didn't seemed concerned. Matter of fact, his words were, 'looks like we are not going to make it, doesn't it?' since we were only 1 mi away, there wasn't time to tell ATC. This could be avoided by a more professional attitude of the pilot flying. Also it could be avoided by trying not to get paired with this guy again. 2 NASA forms for 1 3-DAY trip is too much.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: WDB FAILED TO COMPLY WITH SPEED RESTRICTION ASSIGNED BY ATC.

Narrative: THIS OCCURRED ON THE CIVIT ARRIVAL INTO LOS ANGELES. AT THE 34 DME POINT, THE ARRIVAL REQUIRES 10,000', AND 250 KTS. THE CAPT WAS FLYING THIS LEG. I NOTICED THAT HE WAS A BIT HIGH IN STARTING HIS DESCENT, BUT I KNEW THAT WITH SPEED BRAKES, HE COULD MAKE ALL THE RESTRICTIONS. FOR SOME REASON, HE CHOSE NOT TO USE THEM, AND WHEN HE HIT THIS POINT, HE WAS AT 10,000', BUT GOING 290 KTS. I WARNED HIM ABOUT THIS MORE THAN ONCE PRIOR TO ARRIVING AT THIS FIX, BUT HE DIDN'T SEEMED CONCERNED. MATTER OF FACT, HIS WORDS WERE, 'LOOKS LIKE WE ARE NOT GOING TO MAKE IT, DOESN'T IT?' SINCE WE WERE ONLY 1 MI AWAY, THERE WASN'T TIME TO TELL ATC. THIS COULD BE AVOIDED BY A MORE PROFESSIONAL ATTITUDE OF THE PLT FLYING. ALSO IT COULD BE AVOIDED BY TRYING NOT TO GET PAIRED WITH THIS GUY AGAIN. 2 NASA FORMS FOR 1 3-DAY TRIP IS TOO MUCH.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.