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Attributes | |
ACN | 103771 |
Time | |
Date | 198901 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : orf |
State Reference | VA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 3500 msl bound upper : 4000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : orf |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | departure sid : sid |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | other |
Make Model Name | Experimental |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 11000 flight time type : 3000 |
ASRS Report | 103771 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : military |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : military |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : required legal separation non adherence : published procedure |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance flight crew : took evasive action other |
Consequence | faa : investigated |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 3000 vertical : 500 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
While on the norfolk SID, climbing to 4000', orf approach advised me of a military spc traffic at 3 O'clock also climbing from 3000' to 4000' MSL. Approach gave us an immediate descent to 3000 to avoid collision. Spc passed slightly above and behind our medium large transport. We filed near miss with ATC. Difficult to know exact miss distance since we were transitioning to descent and he was climbing. Part of the problem was that orf tower didn't hand us off to approach until we passed 3000' MSL.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR MLG CLIMBING ON SID WAS ISSUED AN IMMEDIATE DESCENT TO AVOID AN SPC.
Narrative: WHILE ON THE NORFOLK SID, CLBING TO 4000', ORF APCH ADVISED ME OF A MIL SPC TFC AT 3 O'CLOCK ALSO CLBING FROM 3000' TO 4000' MSL. APCH GAVE US AN IMMEDIATE DSCNT TO 3000 TO AVOID COLLISION. SPC PASSED SLIGHTLY ABOVE AND BEHIND OUR MLG. WE FILED NEAR MISS WITH ATC. DIFFICULT TO KNOW EXACT MISS DISTANCE SINCE WE WERE TRANSITIONING TO DSCNT AND HE WAS CLBING. PART OF THE PROB WAS THAT ORF TWR DIDN'T HAND US OFF TO APCH UNTIL WE PASSED 3000' MSL.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.