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Attributes | |
ACN | 144781 |
Time | |
Date | 199005 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : jax |
State Reference | FL |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 1850 msl bound upper : 2000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : jax |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | climbout : initial climbout : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Small Transport, Low Wing, 2 Recip Eng |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 160 flight time total : 9094 flight time type : 834 |
ASRS Report | 144781 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac non adherence : required legal separation other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 300 vertical : 150 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
The first officer was at the controls when we were cleared to takeoff on runway 13, turn left to 050 degrees, and climb to 3000'. We were advised that an small transport was off the departure end of runway 7. We could not see the small transport and said so. As we started our turn left to 050 degrees, I asked the tower for the small transport position. ATC replied that he was at our 10 O'clock and to make a tight left turn to 050 degrees. I told ATC that we still did not see the small transport. As we were passing through 1800', ATC told us to level off at 1500'. I asked and was told the small transport was at 2000'. Almost simultaneously with passing through 1800', I saw the small transport right in front of us. The first officer did not see it, so I pushed forward on the yoke to ensure we would pass under the small transport, then allowed the first officer to continue back down to 1500'. I then informed ATC tower that we had a near miss with the small transport and had to push over to avoid hitting it. Her response was to ask me to switch to departure control. I asked her why she turned us into the small transport, and she replied that that was the standard arsa departure, and asked us again to switch to departure control. I was angry with her apparent lack of concern over our near miss and told her to report the near miss. Then I switched to departure and asked him for the phone # of the tower chief in order to follow up on a near miss that just occurred as a result of the tower turning us into an aircraft. He expressed concern and gave me the #.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR MLG HAS NMAC WITH SMT WHILE CLIMBING OUT OF JAX ON A VECTOR FROM THE TWR LCL CTLR.
Narrative: THE F/O WAS AT THE CONTROLS WHEN WE WERE CLRED TO TKOF ON RWY 13, TURN LEFT TO 050 DEGS, AND CLB TO 3000'. WE WERE ADVISED THAT AN SMT WAS OFF THE DEP END OF RWY 7. WE COULD NOT SEE THE SMT AND SAID SO. AS WE STARTED OUR TURN LEFT TO 050 DEGS, I ASKED THE TWR FOR THE SMT POS. ATC REPLIED THAT HE WAS AT OUR 10 O'CLOCK AND TO MAKE A TIGHT LEFT TURN TO 050 DEGS. I TOLD ATC THAT WE STILL DID NOT SEE THE SMT. AS WE WERE PASSING THROUGH 1800', ATC TOLD US TO LEVEL OFF AT 1500'. I ASKED AND WAS TOLD THE SMT WAS AT 2000'. ALMOST SIMULTANEOUSLY WITH PASSING THROUGH 1800', I SAW THE SMT RIGHT IN FRONT OF US. THE F/O DID NOT SEE IT, SO I PUSHED FORWARD ON THE YOKE TO ENSURE WE WOULD PASS UNDER THE SMT, THEN ALLOWED THE F/O TO CONTINUE BACK DOWN TO 1500'. I THEN INFORMED ATC TWR THAT WE HAD A NEAR MISS WITH THE SMT AND HAD TO PUSH OVER TO AVOID HITTING IT. HER RESPONSE WAS TO ASK ME TO SWITCH TO DEP CTL. I ASKED HER WHY SHE TURNED US INTO THE SMT, AND SHE REPLIED THAT THAT WAS THE STANDARD ARSA DEP, AND ASKED US AGAIN TO SWITCH TO DEP CTL. I WAS ANGRY WITH HER APPARENT LACK OF CONCERN OVER OUR NEAR MISS AND TOLD HER TO RPT THE NEAR MISS. THEN I SWITCHED TO DEP AND ASKED HIM FOR THE PHONE # OF THE TWR CHIEF IN ORDER TO FOLLOW UP ON A NEAR MISS THAT JUST OCCURRED AS A RESULT OF THE TWR TURNING US INTO AN ACFT. HE EXPRESSED CONCERN AND GAVE ME THE #.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.