<< >> NASA ASRS Report 104819, February 1989

Air carrier widebody transport nearly taxi into path of GA light transport on takeoff roll resulting in critical conflict ground.

Attributes
ACN	104819
Time
Date	198902
Day	Thu
Local Time Of Day	1801 To 2400
Place
Locale Reference	airport : ewr
State Reference	NJ
Altitude	agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Night
Aircraft 1
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Widebody, Low Wing, 4 Turbojet Eng
Navigation In Use	Other
Flight Phase	ground other : taxi
Flight Plan	IFR
Aircraft 2
Operator	general aviation : corporate
Make Model Name	Light Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng
Flight Phase	climbout : takeoff
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : commercial pilot : instrument
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 7300
ASRS Report	104819
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp
Events
Anomaly	conflict : ground critical incursion : runway other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	flight crew : took evasive action
Consequence	faa : reviewed incident with flight crew
Miss Distance	horizontal : 50 vertical : 0
Supplementary
Primary Problem	ATC Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Operational Error Intra Facility Coordination Failure

Narrative:

I was acting as first officer on this flight. We were holding short of runway 4L at taxiway east. Ground gave us a clearance of 'cross 4L turn right on P.' as we began to move we checked both ends of the runway for traffic. I noticed an aircraft sitting in position for takeoff on 4L with all of its landing lights on. I told the captain an aircraft is in position and 'he isn't moving.' shortly thereafter, I looked his way again and he was rolling toward us. I called out, 'stop!', and the captain made an immediate stop. We were past the hold short line and our nose may have just been over the edge of the runway. The captain told me to verify our crossing clearance with tower before we moved any further, because ground was so busy. Tower wouldn't confirm or not, and angrily sent us back to ground. Ground gave us the same clearance as earlier, and no one seemed to notice what had just happened. We contacted tower holding short of 4R and tried to cross an active runway, but he became very abusive and made several rude remarks about our experience level at ewr.

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Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: ACR WDB NEARLY TAXI INTO PATH OF GA LTT ON TKOF ROLL RESULTING IN CRITICAL CONFLICT GND.

Narrative: I WAS ACTING AS F/O ON THIS FLT. WE WERE HOLDING SHORT OF RWY 4L AT TXWY E. GND GAVE US A CLRNC OF 'CROSS 4L TURN RIGHT ON P.' AS WE BEGAN TO MOVE WE CHKED BOTH ENDS OF THE RWY FOR TFC. I NOTICED AN ACFT SITTING IN POS FOR TKOF ON 4L WITH ALL OF ITS LNDG LIGHTS ON. I TOLD THE CAPT AN ACFT IS IN POS AND 'HE ISN'T MOVING.' SHORTLY THEREAFTER, I LOOKED HIS WAY AGAIN AND HE WAS ROLLING TOWARD US. I CALLED OUT, 'STOP!', AND THE CAPT MADE AN IMMEDIATE STOP. WE WERE PAST THE HOLD SHORT LINE AND OUR NOSE MAY HAVE JUST BEEN OVER THE EDGE OF THE RWY. THE CAPT TOLD ME TO VERIFY OUR XING CLRNC WITH TWR BEFORE WE MOVED ANY FURTHER, BECAUSE GND WAS SO BUSY. TWR WOULDN'T CONFIRM OR NOT, AND ANGRILY SENT US BACK TO GND. GND GAVE US THE SAME CLRNC AS EARLIER, AND NO ONE SEEMED TO NOTICE WHAT HAD JUST HAPPENED. WE CONTACTED TWR HOLDING SHORT OF 4R AND TRIED TO CROSS AN ACTIVE RWY, BUT HE BECAME VERY ABUSIVE AND MADE SEVERAL RUDE REMARKS ABOUT OUR EXPERIENCE LEVEL AT EWR.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.