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Attributes | |
ACN | 1066012 |
Time | |
Date | 201302 |
Local Time Of Day | 1201-1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | RSW.TRACON |
State Reference | FL |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | A320 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | Descent |
Route In Use | STAR SHFTY2 |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Citation II S2/Bravo (C550) |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | Cruise |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Function | Approach Departure |
Qualification | Air Traffic Control Fully Certified |
Person 2 | |
Function | Approach Departure |
Qualification | Air Traffic Control Fully Certified |
Events | |
Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types Deviation - Procedural Other / Unknown |
Narrative:
I was working sou radar and saw the EST controller not take a hand off over lbv on a jet arrival from lbv sector at 100 ft. He did not take the hand off due to an A320 aircraft also at 100 ft over moemo. This has been an on-going issue with no resolution. Lbv sector does not have an out for these aircraft other than appreq 5 miles from the boundary. Separation was not lost. We need to stop feeding two jets over the same fix at the same altitude from 2 sectors. This procedure is unsafe. We are currently trying to work this issue with ZMA. Although there was no loss of separation; this clearly shows that the procedure is flawed and requires coordination. We have repeatedly asked ZMA for a face-to-face meeting and have been denied. We strongly encourage corrective action on this item.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: RSW Controller expressed concern regarding the dual arrival procedures over the same fix from two different Center sectors.
Narrative: I was working SOU RADAR and saw the EST Controller not take a hand off over LBV on a jet arrival from LBV Sector at 100 FT. He did not take the hand off due to an A320 aircraft also at 100 FT over MOEMO. This has been an on-going issue with no resolution. LBV Sector does not have an out for these aircraft other than APPREQ 5 miles from the boundary. Separation was not lost. We need to stop feeding two jets over the same fix at the same altitude from 2 sectors. This procedure is unsafe. We are currently trying to work this issue with ZMA. Although there was no loss of separation; this clearly shows that the procedure is flawed and requires coordination. We have repeatedly asked ZMA for a face-to-face meeting and have been denied. We strongly encourage corrective action on this item.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2013 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.