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Attributes | |
ACN | 108340 |
Time | |
Date | 198904 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : lax |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 5000 msl bound upper : 5000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : lax |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Widebody Transport |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | departure sid : sid |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Widebody, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | departure other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
ASRS Report | 108340 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 12000 vertical : 800 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
ATC asked if we had traffic at 12 O'clock. I confirmed that I had traffic at that position. ATC cleared us to climb VFR and stay below that traffic. As we climbed, we spotted the widebody transport at 2 O'clock. We leveled off to pass approximately 800-1000' below the widebody transport. ATC gave improper position of the traffic and I misidented the traffic. The traffic I saw at 12 O'clock was not close enough to see the air carrier.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACFT PASSED UNDER TRAFFIC HE WAS FOLLOWING AFTER DEP.
Narrative: ATC ASKED IF WE HAD TFC AT 12 O'CLOCK. I CONFIRMED THAT I HAD TFC AT THAT POS. ATC CLRED US TO CLB VFR AND STAY BELOW THAT TFC. AS WE CLBED, WE SPOTTED THE WDB AT 2 O'CLOCK. WE LEVELED OFF TO PASS APPROX 800-1000' BELOW THE WDB. ATC GAVE IMPROPER POS OF THE TFC AND I MISIDENTED THE TFC. THE TFC I SAW AT 12 O'CLOCK WAS NOT CLOSE ENOUGH TO SEE THE ACR.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.