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Attributes | |
ACN | 110144 |
Time | |
Date | 198905 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : ttn |
State Reference | NJ |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 11900 msl bound upper : 1200 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : n90 |
Operator | common carrier : air taxi |
Make Model Name | Small Transport |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Flight Plan | None |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air taxi |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 4800 flight time type : 250 |
ASRS Report | 110144 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 200 vertical : 100 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
The flight was operated VFR from mmk to ttn at 10500'. VFR advisories were maintained the entire flight. About 50 NM northeast off ttn an IFR clearance to VFR conditions were requested, and was told to standby. About 5 mins later ATC advised a descent to 7500' could be started. When questioned if this was an IFR clearance, I was advised that it was not, and that I could get it from the next controller who was not as busy. The controller was extremely busy and after 5-10 mins I still did not have a handoff. At the same time the tops ahead were rising and was not going to be able to maintain VFR at the current altitude. Unable to get a word in to the controller. A VFR climb was begun to maintain VFR. At approximately 11900' an large transport was spotted at 12-12:30. We both initiated left turns to avoid a collision. After passing the traffic the controller asked if the traffic had been in sight and an affirmative was given, and also wanted my altitude. I advised that I was at 11000' and climbing and was unable to advise the controller of the climb. I was again asked if I had the traffic and again advised that I did. I was told that I had been handed off to the next controller several mins previous. I advised I never heard the handoff. The handoff was then completed, and an IFR clearance was given and the flight was completed west/O further event.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ATX SMT HAS NEAR MISS WITH LGT. SMT WAS VFR.
Narrative: THE FLT WAS OPERATED VFR FROM MMK TO TTN AT 10500'. VFR ADVISORIES WERE MAINTAINED THE ENTIRE FLT. ABOUT 50 NM NE OFF TTN AN IFR CLRNC TO VFR CONDITIONS WERE REQUESTED, AND WAS TOLD TO STANDBY. ABOUT 5 MINS LATER ATC ADVISED A DSCNT TO 7500' COULD BE STARTED. WHEN QUESTIONED IF THIS WAS AN IFR CLRNC, I WAS ADVISED THAT IT WAS NOT, AND THAT I COULD GET IT FROM THE NEXT CTLR WHO WAS NOT AS BUSY. THE CTLR WAS EXTREMELY BUSY AND AFTER 5-10 MINS I STILL DID NOT HAVE A HDOF. AT THE SAME TIME THE TOPS AHEAD WERE RISING AND WAS NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN VFR AT THE CURRENT ALT. UNABLE TO GET A WORD IN TO THE CTLR. A VFR CLB WAS BEGUN TO MAINTAIN VFR. AT APPROX 11900' AN LGT WAS SPOTTED AT 12-12:30. WE BOTH INITIATED LEFT TURNS TO AVOID A COLLISION. AFTER PASSING THE TFC THE CTLR ASKED IF THE TFC HAD BEEN IN SIGHT AND AN AFFIRMATIVE WAS GIVEN, AND ALSO WANTED MY ALT. I ADVISED THAT I WAS AT 11000' AND CLBING AND WAS UNABLE TO ADVISE THE CTLR OF THE CLB. I WAS AGAIN ASKED IF I HAD THE TFC AND AGAIN ADVISED THAT I DID. I WAS TOLD THAT I HAD BEEN HANDED OFF TO THE NEXT CTLR SEVERAL MINS PREVIOUS. I ADVISED I NEVER HEARD THE HDOF. THE HDOF WAS THEN COMPLETED, AND AN IFR CLRNC WAS GIVEN AND THE FLT WAS COMPLETED W/O FURTHER EVENT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.