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Attributes | |
ACN | 98778 |
Time | |
Date | 198811 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : sns |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 8000 msl bound upper : 12000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zoa |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Small Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Route In Use | enroute airway : zoa |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : radar |
Qualification | controller : radar |
Experience | controller radar : 12 controller supervisory : 2 |
ASRS Report | 98778 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | inflight encounter other non adherence : far |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 2000 vertical : 3500 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
Approximately a yr ago a jump zone was established at the sns 045/16 and another about 10 mi northwest of this one. These are both located on the sjc localizer, the first about 45 mi southeast of sjc, the second 35 mi southeast of sjc. Propellers and turboprops cross these points between 14000' and 6000' usually descending jumps are usually conducted between 8000' and 12000'. At first the jump aircraft talked to ZOA and advised us at least 5 mins prior to any jump so we could separate from traffic we were working. I personally have not worked one of these jump planes in over 2 months. On sun, small transport X, an air taxi, was inbound on the sjc localizer at 8000'. I quoted VFR traffic which he sighted. He then asked if we were working the traffic. We weren't. He said the aircraft was at 11000-12000' and dropped parachutists just as he passed underneath. Having a drop zone on a localizer, this close to a major airport is a bad idea. At the least, these jump planes should be talking with ZOA.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: SMT GIVEN TRAFFIC ON UNK VFR ACFT WHICH WAS SIGHTED AND IDENTIFIED AS A JUMP ACFT FOR SKYDIVERS. SMT OBSERVED SKYDIVERS LEAVE ACFT AS HE PASSED BELOW IT. ARTCC NOT WORKING THE JUMP ACFT.
Narrative: APPROX A YR AGO A JUMP ZONE WAS ESTABLISHED AT THE SNS 045/16 AND ANOTHER ABOUT 10 MI NW OF THIS ONE. THESE ARE BOTH LOCATED ON THE SJC LOC, THE FIRST ABOUT 45 MI SE OF SJC, THE SECOND 35 MI SE OF SJC. PROPS AND TURBOPROPS CROSS THESE POINTS BTWN 14000' AND 6000' USUALLY DSNDING JUMPS ARE USUALLY CONDUCTED BTWN 8000' AND 12000'. AT FIRST THE JUMP ACFT TALKED TO ZOA AND ADVISED US AT LEAST 5 MINS PRIOR TO ANY JUMP SO WE COULD SEPARATE FROM TFC WE WERE WORKING. I PERSONALLY HAVE NOT WORKED ONE OF THESE JUMP PLANES IN OVER 2 MONTHS. ON SUN, SMT X, AN AIR TAXI, WAS INBND ON THE SJC LOC AT 8000'. I QUOTED VFR TFC WHICH HE SIGHTED. HE THEN ASKED IF WE WERE WORKING THE TFC. WE WEREN'T. HE SAID THE ACFT WAS AT 11000-12000' AND DROPPED PARACHUTISTS JUST AS HE PASSED UNDERNEATH. HAVING A DROP ZONE ON A LOC, THIS CLOSE TO A MAJOR ARPT IS A BAD IDEA. AT THE LEAST, THESE JUMP PLANES SHOULD BE TALKING WITH ZOA.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.