Non compliance with loupe 5 SID departing sjc.

Attributes
ACN	110641
Time
Date	198905
Day	Tue
Local Time Of Day	1201 To 1800
Place
Locale Reference	atc facility : sjc
State Reference	CA
Altitude	msl bound lower : 1500 msl bound upper : 10500
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tracon : oak
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Large Transport, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng
Flight Phase	climbout : intermediate altitude
Route In Use	departure other departure sid : sid
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : second officer
Qualification	pilot : atp pilot : cfi pilot : flight engineer
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 3800 flight time type : 150
ASRS Report	110641
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : instrument pilot : commercial
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 6000 flight time type : 3000
ASRS Report	110661
Events
Anomaly	altitude deviation : undershoot altitude deviation : crossing restriction not met non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure
Independent Detector	other controllera other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	none taken : anomaly accepted
Consequence	Other
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation

Narrative:

Departing sjc. The loupe 5 SID was issued and being flown. The captain was flying this leg, and during the flap retraction sequence/phase the clearance was modified to: at 2000' turn right heading 120 degrees, continue departure. The captain continued the flap retraction sequence after being advised of the 200 KTS speed restriction below sfo TCA (as notamed). He stated that at this gross weight the minimum safe speed flaps up was higher than 200 KTS and thus he would fly the higher speed as he continued to retract flaps to up. We did not start the turn to heading 120 degrees at 2.5 DME as SID requires but at a distance much further beyond, resulting in a total distance of 7.5 DME by completion of turn, with airspeed reaching 235+/- KTS. Also, we were to climb and cross sjc VOR at 12000', then climb to FL230 at normal speed. We actually crossed VOR northbound at 10500' and advised by ATC we blew the crossing. During these events, starting with the 200 KT restriction advice, the captain openly spent much effort to justify his actions, procedures and perceived clrncs to ATC and his crew when he should have been concentrating on flying.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: NON COMPLIANCE WITH LOUPE 5 SID DEPARTING SJC.

Narrative: DEPARTING SJC. THE LOUPE 5 SID WAS ISSUED AND BEING FLOWN. THE CAPT WAS FLYING THIS LEG, AND DURING THE FLAP RETRACTION SEQUENCE/PHASE THE CLRNC WAS MODIFIED TO: AT 2000' TURN RIGHT HDG 120 DEGS, CONTINUE DEP. THE CAPT CONTINUED THE FLAP RETRACTION SEQUENCE AFTER BEING ADVISED OF THE 200 KTS SPD RESTRICTION BELOW SFO TCA (AS NOTAMED). HE STATED THAT AT THIS GROSS WT THE MINIMUM SAFE SPD FLAPS UP WAS HIGHER THAN 200 KTS AND THUS HE WOULD FLY THE HIGHER SPD AS HE CONTINUED TO RETRACT FLAPS TO UP. WE DID NOT START THE TURN TO HDG 120 DEGS AT 2.5 DME AS SID REQUIRES BUT AT A DISTANCE MUCH FURTHER BEYOND, RESULTING IN A TOTAL DISTANCE OF 7.5 DME BY COMPLETION OF TURN, WITH AIRSPD REACHING 235+/- KTS. ALSO, WE WERE TO CLB AND CROSS SJC VOR AT 12000', THEN CLB TO FL230 AT NORMAL SPD. WE ACTUALLY CROSSED VOR NBOUND AT 10500' AND ADVISED BY ATC WE BLEW THE XING. DURING THESE EVENTS, STARTING WITH THE 200 KT RESTRICTION ADVICE, THE CAPT OPENLY SPENT MUCH EFFORT TO JUSTIFY HIS ACTIONS, PROCS AND PERCEIVED CLRNCS TO ATC AND HIS CREW WHEN HE SHOULD HAVE BEEN CONCENTRATING ON FLYING.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.