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Attributes | |
ACN | 111779 |
Time | |
Date | 198905 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : 9coz |
State Reference | CO |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Small Transport |
Flight Phase | landing other |
Flight Plan | None |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | instruction : instructor |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 11000 flight time type : 130 |
ASRS Report | 111779 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | instruction : trainee |
Qualification | pilot : private |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : insufficient time |
Consequence | other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Gear up instructional accidents are on the increase; it is not the low time or infrequent CFI that are having this problem. Monitoring the student and conducting multiple touch and goes while raising and lowering the landing gear combined with other distrs is a poor combination. It is my suggestion that in the case of initial transition to a complex aircraft that traffic pattern work be done with the gear left in the down position. Flight to nearby airport could be used to ensure student of operation of the landing gear (not multiple touch and go lndgs). The failure of a gear up warning system and lack of a cockpit check of lights or mechanical devices is no excuse. Gear checks are required on the final approach and should even be introduced in the earliest phases of primary flight training--even when using a fixed gear aircraft.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: GEAR UP LNDG WHILE TRAINING.
Narrative: GEAR UP INSTRUCTIONAL ACCIDENTS ARE ON THE INCREASE; IT IS NOT THE LOW TIME OR INFREQUENT CFI THAT ARE HAVING THIS PROB. MONITORING THE STUDENT AND CONDUCTING MULTIPLE TOUCH AND GOES WHILE RAISING AND LOWERING THE LNDG GEAR COMBINED WITH OTHER DISTRS IS A POOR COMBINATION. IT IS MY SUGGESTION THAT IN THE CASE OF INITIAL TRANSITION TO A COMPLEX ACFT THAT TFC PATTERN WORK BE DONE WITH THE GEAR LEFT IN THE DOWN POS. FLT TO NEARBY ARPT COULD BE USED TO ENSURE STUDENT OF OPERATION OF THE LNDG GEAR (NOT MULTIPLE TOUCH AND GO LNDGS). THE FAILURE OF A GEAR UP WARNING SYS AND LACK OF A COCKPIT CHK OF LIGHTS OR MECHANICAL DEVICES IS NO EXCUSE. GEAR CHKS ARE REQUIRED ON THE FINAL APCH AND SHOULD EVEN BE INTRODUCED IN THE EARLIEST PHASES OF PRIMARY FLT TRNING--EVEN WHEN USING A FIXED GEAR ACFT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.