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Attributes | |
ACN | 111849 |
Time | |
Date | 198905 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : ont |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 5200 msl bound upper : 5200 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : ont |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : flight engineer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 187 flight time total : 6704 flight time type : 794 |
ASRS Report | 111849 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action other |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 0 vertical : 400 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
Aircraft was on radar vectors for an ILS 26L approach at ontario. We were cleared for the approach. Approach control called mlt traffic at 11 O'clock, below, which we identified. Approach then said 'if you don't have additional traffic at 11-12 O'clock, 1 mi, opposite direction, altitude 5200', suggest you turn right (our aircraft was descending through 5600'). Captain began an immediate right turn and we both spotted a single engine light aircraft. Aircraft passed behind our aircraft. Captain called the controller upon landing. The controller told the captain he had the traffic, but was too busy to call it sooner. It is imperative that we be notified as soon as possible anytime a traffic conflict exists. It is doubly important in the los angeles area where the smog makes it especially difficult to see light aircraft.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: VFR TRAFFIC CALLED LATE TO MLG ON VECTOR FOR VISUAL APCH. SEE AND AVOID CONCEPT.
Narrative: ACFT WAS ON RADAR VECTORS FOR AN ILS 26L APCH AT ONTARIO. WE WERE CLRED FOR THE APCH. APCH CTL CALLED MLT TFC AT 11 O'CLOCK, BELOW, WHICH WE IDENTIFIED. APCH THEN SAID 'IF YOU DON'T HAVE ADDITIONAL TFC AT 11-12 O'CLOCK, 1 MI, OPPOSITE DIRECTION, ALT 5200', SUGGEST YOU TURN RIGHT (OUR ACFT WAS DESCENDING THROUGH 5600'). CAPT BEGAN AN IMMEDIATE RIGHT TURN AND WE BOTH SPOTTED A SINGLE ENGINE LIGHT ACFT. ACFT PASSED BEHIND OUR ACFT. CAPT CALLED THE CTLR UPON LNDG. THE CTLR TOLD THE CAPT HE HAD THE TFC, BUT WAS TOO BUSY TO CALL IT SOONER. IT IS IMPERATIVE THAT WE BE NOTIFIED AS SOON AS POSSIBLE ANYTIME A TFC CONFLICT EXISTS. IT IS DOUBLY IMPORTANT IN THE LOS ANGELES AREA WHERE THE SMOG MAKES IT ESPECIALLY DIFFICULT TO SEE LIGHT ACFT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.