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Altitude deviation. Overshoot on climb. Possible operational deviation. Hearback problem as both controllers did not catch or correct the stated altitude flight was climbing to as assigned.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 114269 |
| Time | |
| Date | 198906 |
| Day | Wed |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : lga |
| State Reference | NY |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 10000 msl bound upper : 10300 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | IMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zny tracon : n90 |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Medium Transport, High Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng |
| Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude cruise other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 120 flight time total : 5500 |
| ASRS Report | 114269 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 11000 |
| ASRS Report | 114002 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course other |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation other |
Narrative:
After departing ewr flight X was given several altitude changes by ny departure control. Last change was cleared to 11,000'. Pilot read back 'cleared to 11,000'.' flight then handed off to ZNY. Pilot checked in with call sign and 'climbing to 11,000'.' center acknowledged transmission. A few minutes later an aircraft was passing 10,300', ZNY transmitted 'flight X, descend to 10,000'' and asked to what altitude we had been cleared and by whom. We stated that we had been cleared to 11,000' by previous controller (i.e., ny departure control) and that we were now level at 10,000' and maintaining 10,000'. There were no more queries or comments by ZNY, although ZNY xmissions to another aircraft led me to believe that another aircraft was in the vicinity which had also been cleared to 11,000'. I was the first officer-copilot flying the aircraft during this incident.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ALT DEVIATION. OVERSHOOT ON CLIMB. POSSIBLE OPERATIONAL DEVIATION. HEARBACK PROBLEM AS BOTH CTLRS DID NOT CATCH OR CORRECT THE STATED ALT FLT WAS CLIMBING TO AS ASSIGNED.
Narrative: AFTER DEPARTING EWR FLT X WAS GIVEN SEVERAL ALT CHANGES BY NY DEP CTL. LAST CHANGE WAS CLRED TO 11,000'. PLT READ BACK 'CLRED TO 11,000'.' FLT THEN HANDED OFF TO ZNY. PLT CHECKED IN WITH CALL SIGN AND 'CLIMBING TO 11,000'.' CENTER ACKNOWLEDGED XMISSION. A FEW MINUTES LATER AN ACFT WAS PASSING 10,300', ZNY TRANSMITTED 'FLT X, DSND TO 10,000'' AND ASKED TO WHAT ALT WE HAD BEEN CLRED AND BY WHOM. WE STATED THAT WE HAD BEEN CLRED TO 11,000' BY PREVIOUS CTLR (I.E., NY DEP CTL) AND THAT WE WERE NOW LEVEL AT 10,000' AND MAINTAINING 10,000'. THERE WERE NO MORE QUERIES OR COMMENTS BY ZNY, ALTHOUGH ZNY XMISSIONS TO ANOTHER ACFT LED ME TO BELIEVE THAT ANOTHER ACFT WAS IN THE VICINITY WHICH HAD ALSO BEEN CLRED TO 11,000'. I WAS THE F/O-COPLT FLYING THE ACFT DURING THIS INCIDENT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.