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Attributes | |
ACN | 114809 |
Time | |
Date | 198906 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : ewb airport : nbe |
State Reference | TX |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 3000 msl bound upper : 7000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : dfw tracon : sna |
Operator | other |
Make Model Name | Fighter |
Flight Phase | descent : approach descent other |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | government : military |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 30 flight time total : 1530 flight time type : 1300 |
ASRS Report | 114809 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : approach |
Qualification | controller : radar |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation Operational Deviation |
Narrative:
I was flying an fgt from MCAS el toro to NAS dallas. I had requested an overhead break at NAS dallas, while talking to approach on 256.7, I heard the controller's order for me to descend from 7000' to 3000'. I responded 'XXXX leaving 7000' for 3000'.' shortly thereafter, I was asked to give my altitude. I said, 'XXXX passing 4000' for 3000'.' he said, 'I don't know where you got 3000', stay at 4000'.' soon I was told to climb back to 7000' again. The problem was caused by a lack of good communication. The approach controller was busy. I repeated something the controller didn't believe he said, but it didn't register with him.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ALT DEVIATION EXCURSION FROM ASSIGNED ALT.
Narrative: I WAS FLYING AN FGT FROM MCAS EL TORO TO NAS DALLAS. I HAD REQUESTED AN OVERHEAD BREAK AT NAS DALLAS, WHILE TALKING TO APCH ON 256.7, I HEARD THE CTLR'S ORDER FOR ME TO DSND FROM 7000' TO 3000'. I RESPONDED 'XXXX LEAVING 7000' FOR 3000'.' SHORTLY THEREAFTER, I WAS ASKED TO GIVE MY ALT. I SAID, 'XXXX PASSING 4000' FOR 3000'.' HE SAID, 'I DON'T KNOW WHERE YOU GOT 3000', STAY AT 4000'.' SOON I WAS TOLD TO CLIMB BACK TO 7000' AGAIN. THE PROBLEM WAS CAUSED BY A LACK OF GOOD COM. THE APCH CTLR WAS BUSY. I REPEATED SOMETHING THE CTLR DIDN'T BELIEVE HE SAID, BUT IT DIDN'T REGISTER WITH HIM.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.