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An md-82 captain reported that when flying the RNAV runway 27 approach to san the charted glidepath (3.5 degrees) inside the FAF failed to place the aircraft vertically at a point from which a stabilized approach and touchdown could be accomplished. Per a later conversation with the first officer of that flight the reporter learned the problem appears to have been resolved via discussions and subsequent actions between government; airline and pilot union representatives.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 1159773 |
| Time | |
| Date | 201402 |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601-1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | SAN.Airport |
| State Reference | CA |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Make Model Name | MD-82 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | Landing |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Function | Captain Pilot Flying |
| Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy Inflight Event / Encounter Unstabilized Approach |
Narrative:
This approach now brings aircraft too high to land on glidepath from MDA. I know it has a steeper glidepath; that is not the problem. The problem is that the glidepath puts aircraft too high at MDA to make a normal landing. The PAPI is all white. I was able to land only because I broke out 500-600 ft above MDA. The week before; the ceiling was close to MDA and aircraft had to go-around. Please have FAA flight check technicians call me; as the prior reports do not seem to be understood by company and union representatives.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: An MD-82 Captain reported that when flying the RNAV Runway 27 approach to SAN the charted glidepath (3.5 degrees) inside the FAF failed to place the aircraft vertically at a point from which a stabilized approach and touchdown could be accomplished. Per a later conversation with the First Officer of that flight the reporter learned the problem appears to have been resolved via discussions and subsequent actions between government; airline and pilot union representatives.
Narrative: This approach now brings aircraft too high to land on glidepath from MDA. I know it has a steeper glidepath; that is not the problem. The problem is that the glidepath puts aircraft too high at MDA to make a normal landing. The PAPI is all white. I was able to land only because I broke out 500-600 FT above MDA. The week before; the ceiling was close to MDA and aircraft had to go-around. Please have FAA flight check technicians call me; as the prior reports do not seem to be understood by company and union representatives.
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