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Attributes | |
ACN | 118896 |
Time | |
Date | 198908 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : stl |
State Reference | MO |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 2400 msl bound upper : 2400 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Mixed |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : stl |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | descent : approach descent other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 80 flight time total : 7000 |
ASRS Report | 118896 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
We were making an approach into stl. We were told by approach control to expect an ILS to 12R. As we got over the field, approach control changed the approach to an lda approach to 12L. Approach control was keeping us up and descending us rather slowly. I assume this was due to conflicting traffic. We were finally turned toward the localizer and cleared for the approach. I saw the localizer start to come across the about that time the first officer called the runway in sight. We were high as expected but far enough from the runway to get down and make a safe, stable approach. With the runway in sight, I rolled the aircraft out on the centerline of 12L. The problem is that I should have rolled out on the localizer which is offset to the left of centerline. When you are describing an incident like this, you wonder how you could do something so foolish. This was my first lda approach, and after years of rolling out on the centerline of the runway, it surely was easy for me to do. I don't know if anyone else has had this problem, but it is a situation I will be guarding against in the future.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLT CREW OF MLG ON SIDESTEP LDA APCH TO STL ALIGNED WITH RWY TOO SOON.
Narrative: WE WERE MAKING AN APCH INTO STL. WE WERE TOLD BY APCH CTL TO EXPECT AN ILS TO 12R. AS WE GOT OVER THE FIELD, APCH CTL CHANGED THE APCH TO AN LDA APCH TO 12L. APCH CTL WAS KEEPING US UP AND DESCENDING US RATHER SLOWLY. I ASSUME THIS WAS DUE TO CONFLICTING TFC. WE WERE FINALLY TURNED TOWARD THE LOC AND CLRED FOR THE APCH. I SAW THE LOC START TO COME ACROSS THE ABOUT THAT TIME THE F/O CALLED THE RWY IN SIGHT. WE WERE HIGH AS EXPECTED BUT FAR ENOUGH FROM THE RWY TO GET DOWN AND MAKE A SAFE, STABLE APCH. WITH THE RWY IN SIGHT, I ROLLED THE ACFT OUT ON THE CENTERLINE OF 12L. THE PROBLEM IS THAT I SHOULD HAVE ROLLED OUT ON THE LOC WHICH IS OFFSET TO THE LEFT OF CENTERLINE. WHEN YOU ARE DESCRIBING AN INCIDENT LIKE THIS, YOU WONDER HOW YOU COULD DO SOMETHING SO FOOLISH. THIS WAS MY FIRST LDA APCH, AND AFTER YEARS OF ROLLING OUT ON THE CENTERLINE OF THE RWY, IT SURELY WAS EASY FOR ME TO DO. I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE ELSE HAS HAD THIS PROBLEM, BUT IT IS A SITUATION I WILL BE GUARDING AGAINST IN THE FUTURE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.