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Flight crew of medium large transport claims cleared to cross 12L and 17, position and hold runway 12R. Local controller claims flight crew cleared to hold short of 12R. Arriving airliner goes around.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 119443 |
| Time | |
| Date | 198908 |
| Day | Sun |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : hou |
| State Reference | TX |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Flight Phase | ground : holding ground other : taxi |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Navigation In Use | Other |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | other other : other pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 12400 flight time type : 5700 |
| ASRS Report | 119443 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : atp pilot : commercial |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 160 flight time total : 3300 flight time type : 550 |
| ASRS Report | 120140 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : ground less severe incursion : runway |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance other other |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
| Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
While holding short of runway 12L, tower cleared us, medium large transport X, to follow the red line across 12L, hurry across 17 and into position and hold on runway 12R. Both first officer and I heard these instructions, and the first officer repeated them to tower. Before going into position on runway 12R, I could see an aircraft on final about 2 1/2 mi out. First officer and myself again verified that we both heard position and hold. The aircraft on final appeared to be lined up with 12L and I could not tell its size. While holding in position on 12R we heard medium large transport Y going around and tower told us he had instructed us to hold short of runway 12R. First officer told tower that we had both heard position and hold and that he had acknowledged position and hold on 12R.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLT CREW OF MLG CLAIMS CLEARED TO CROSS 12L AND 17, POSITION AND HOLD RWY 12R. LCL CTLR CLAIMS FLT CREW CLEARED TO HOLD SHORT OF 12R. ARRIVING AIRLINER GOES AROUND.
Narrative: WHILE HOLDING SHORT OF RWY 12L, TWR CLRED US, MLG X, TO FOLLOW THE RED LINE ACROSS 12L, HURRY ACROSS 17 AND INTO POS AND HOLD ON RWY 12R. BOTH F/O AND I HEARD THESE INSTRUCTIONS, AND THE F/O REPEATED THEM TO TWR. BEFORE GOING INTO POS ON RWY 12R, I COULD SEE AN ACFT ON FINAL ABOUT 2 1/2 MI OUT. F/O AND MYSELF AGAIN VERIFIED THAT WE BOTH HEARD POS AND HOLD. THE ACFT ON FINAL APPEARED TO BE LINED UP WITH 12L AND I COULD NOT TELL ITS SIZE. WHILE HOLDING IN POS ON 12R WE HEARD MLG Y GOING AROUND AND TWR TOLD US HE HAD INSTRUCTED US TO HOLD SHORT OF RWY 12R. F/O TOLD TWR THAT WE HAD BOTH HEARD POS AND HOLD AND THAT HE HAD ACKNOWLEDGED POS AND HOLD ON 12R.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.