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Pilot of light aircraft unintentionally penetrates san diego TCA after takeoff from gillespie airport. Local controller pilot miscommunication and aggression.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 120165 |
| Time | |
| Date | 198908 |
| Day | Tue |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : see |
| State Reference | CA |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 500 msl bound upper : 2000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : san tower : see |
| Operator | general aviation : instructional |
| Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, Low Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear |
| Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff climbout : initial climbout : intermediate altitude |
| Flight Plan | VFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 50 flight time total : 225 flight time type : 22 |
| ASRS Report | 120165 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : local |
| Qualification | controller : non radar |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : far other anomaly other other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
After takeoff from gillespie airport I tried to make a right turn for a downwind to clear the TCA. At this point the tower controller, rather than help in facilitate a frequency change for VFR advisories, challenged my understanding of TCA procedures in the san diego area. By the time I could get a frequency change, I believe I had penetrated the TCA. I believe this problem could be alleviated by better communications between the gillespie tower and pilots.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: PLT OF LIGHT ACFT UNINTENTIONALLY PENETRATES SAN DIEGO TCA AFTER TKOF FROM GILLESPIE ARPT. LCL CTLR PLT MISCOMMUNICATION AND AGGRESSION.
Narrative: AFTER TKOF FROM GILLESPIE ARPT I TRIED TO MAKE A RIGHT TURN FOR A DOWNWIND TO CLEAR THE TCA. AT THIS POINT THE TWR CTLR, RATHER THAN HELP IN FACILITATE A FREQ CHANGE FOR VFR ADVISORIES, CHALLENGED MY UNDERSTANDING OF TCA PROCS IN THE SAN DIEGO AREA. BY THE TIME I COULD GET A FREQ CHANGE, I BELIEVE I HAD PENETRATED THE TCA. I BELIEVE THIS PROBLEM COULD BE ALLEVIATED BY BETTER COMS BETWEEN THE GILLESPIE TWR AND PLTS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.