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Attributes | |
ACN | 1224636 |
Time | |
Date | 201412 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | LAX.Airport |
State Reference | CA |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | A321 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | Landing |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Function | Pilot Flying First Officer |
Events | |
Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types Deviation - Procedural Clearance Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy |
Narrative:
Landing runway 24R lax. At approximately 90 KTS lax tower controller issued taxi instruction to exit at high speed and hold short 24L. This call interrupted our normal roll out and decelerate procedures. We did not respond then lax tower again gave same instructions at approximately 85 knots. Again we did not respond; control was transferred to captain. After slowing to taxi speed we exited 24R and held short of 24L as required by normal SOP. After we slowed to exit runway we responded and asked for tower supervisors' number. After coming to a stop at hold short line lax tower called and repeated the request (twice while we had come to a stop as per normal SOP) we responded as requested. Once crossing runway 24L and on ground we were given supervisors number. At the gate having exited the aircraft I spoke to the tower supervisor. He was unapologetic regarding the controller issuing taxi instruction during our roll out. He further advised me that they reviewed the tape and stated we sounded unprofessional on the radio. At no time did we make any comments beyond the request for the supervisors' number and repeating the instruction. I informed the supervisor that this was a safety issue and that we had no requirement to answer until we had slowed to a safe speed. I also commented that there is a big difference between sounding unprofessional and being unsafe while violating the FARS. I also informed him we would be filing an as soon as possible and speaking to our local chief pilot. I spoke to our chief pilot shortly after my talk with lax tower supervisor. I explained the event and our response. At no time did we cross any hold short line; cause any aircraft to be forced into a go around or caused any unsafe event. Tower controller should follow guidance provided in far; there is no need to advise us to hold short as we would stop and hold prior to crossing an active runway. Given no guidance our only option is to hold short. We do not need to be given taxi instruction or told to exit any high speed. The runway belongs to us during landing; I have no obligation during roll out to respond; therefore the tower should not be interrupting our landing procedures to issue instructions that are unnecessary.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: Pilot reports of receiving a hold short instruction from LAX Controller while they were rolling out on the runway. Pilot stated they didn't like the call at this time and were going to hold short of the runway as required anyway.
Narrative: Landing runway 24R LAX. At approximately 90 KTS LAX Tower Controller issued taxi instruction to exit at high speed and hold short 24L. This call interrupted our normal roll out and decelerate procedures. We did not respond then LAX Tower again gave same instructions at approximately 85 knots. Again we did not respond; control was transferred to captain. After slowing to taxi speed we exited 24R and held short of 24L as required by normal SOP. After we slowed to exit runway we responded and asked for tower supervisors' number. After coming to a stop at hold short line LAX tower called and repeated the request (twice while we had come to a stop as per normal SOP) we responded as requested. Once crossing runway 24L and on ground we were given supervisors number. At the gate having exited the aircraft I spoke to the tower supervisor. He was unapologetic regarding the controller issuing taxi instruction during our roll out. He further advised me that they reviewed the tape and stated we sounded unprofessional on the radio. At no time did we make any comments beyond the request for the supervisors' number and repeating the instruction. I informed the supervisor that this was a safety issue and that we had no requirement to answer until we had slowed to a safe speed. I also commented that there is a big difference between sounding unprofessional and being unsafe while violating the FARS. I also informed him we would be filing an ASAP and speaking to our local Chief Pilot. I spoke to our Chief Pilot shortly after my talk with LAX TWR supervisor. I explained the event and our response. At no time did we cross any hold short line; cause any aircraft to be forced into a go around or caused any unsafe event. Tower controller should follow guidance provided in FAR; there is no need to advise us to hold short as we would stop and hold prior to crossing an active runway. Given no guidance our only option is to hold short. We do not need to be given taxi instruction or told to exit any high speed. The runway belongs to us during landing; I have no obligation during roll out to respond; therefore the tower should not be interrupting our landing procedures to issue instructions that are unnecessary.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.