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Attributes | |
ACN | 123258 |
Time | |
Date | 198909 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : n90 |
State Reference | NY |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 15000 msl bound upper : 17000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Mixed |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : n90 |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude cruise other |
Route In Use | departure other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 240 flight time total : 8000 flight time type : 500 |
ASRS Report | 123258 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time total : 17000 flight time type : 2000 |
ASRS Report | 123340 |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation other |
Narrative:
First officer was flying departure out of la guardia airport. Departure control (120.4) gave us a climb clearance to 15,000', then turned us over to 120.85. The captain checked in with them and stated we were level at 15,000'. The controller replied with roger, climb to 17,000'. The captain read back the clearance with our call sign, leaving 15,000 for 17,000. There was no reply as to anything abnormal. As we were passing through 16,000, the controller asked for our altitude and he stated to level off back to 15,000. We complied and when level at 15,000, the controller again asked for our altitude. We stated level 15,000. He said we were to level off at 16,000. He then handed us over to another frequency and we received clearance to climb to 17,000. The controller on frequency 120.85 was not using standard terminology plus his transmitter was weak and scratchy, which may have caused us to not hear the correct call sign. However, the captain repeated all clrncs back to the controller for verification and no negative replies were made by the controller.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ALT DEVIATION.
Narrative: F/O WAS FLYING DEP OUT OF LA GUARDIA ARPT. DEP CTL (120.4) GAVE US A CLIMB CLRNC TO 15,000', THEN TURNED US OVER TO 120.85. THE CAPT CHECKED IN WITH THEM AND STATED WE WERE LEVEL AT 15,000'. THE CTLR REPLIED WITH ROGER, CLIMB TO 17,000'. THE CAPT READ BACK THE CLRNC WITH OUR CALL SIGN, LEAVING 15,000 FOR 17,000. THERE WAS NO REPLY AS TO ANYTHING ABNORMAL. AS WE WERE PASSING THROUGH 16,000, THE CTLR ASKED FOR OUR ALT AND HE STATED TO LEVEL OFF BACK TO 15,000. WE COMPLIED AND WHEN LEVEL AT 15,000, THE CTLR AGAIN ASKED FOR OUR ALT. WE STATED LEVEL 15,000. HE SAID WE WERE TO LEVEL OFF AT 16,000. HE THEN HANDED US OVER TO ANOTHER FREQ AND WE RECEIVED CLRNC TO CLIMB TO 17,000. THE CTLR ON FREQ 120.85 WAS NOT USING STANDARD TERMINOLOGY PLUS HIS TRANSMITTER WAS WEAK AND SCRATCHY, WHICH MAY HAVE CAUSED US TO NOT HEAR THE CORRECT CALL SIGN. HOWEVER, THE CAPT REPEATED ALL CLRNCS BACK TO THE CTLR FOR VERIFICATION AND NO NEGATIVE REPLIES WERE MADE BY THE CTLR.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.